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Forums - Nintendo - The Pokemon Company CEO basically confirmed that NX is hybrid

TheLastStarFighter on 20 September 2016
DélioPT said:
Unless NX is some sort of core (the actual NX concept) that you can just use by itself or pair it with attachable controllers or even plug it in a special dock to give it more power... more RAM...what have you.

It just doesn't make any sense, from Iwata's first comments to this guy's comments, to turn a console into TV connector.
There's got to be something more to this. Otherwise, why all the secrecy for a new handheld when no one is making handhelds?

This is a great point. They wouldn't be so secretive about a handheld with a TV dongle.  



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Frogger on 20 September 2016
Miyamotoo said:

And hybrid cant be platform!? You realise that 3DS and Wii U are seperate platforms.

What exatly I make up!?

No, they were consoles. Reggie literally made the distinction in the quote, dude. Nintendo has been very deliberate about differenciating a platform from a system. They consider iOS and Androids platforms. A hybrid is a singular system. Your bit about not referencing platforms since 2013 was made up. And don't get pedantic about bringing up the specifics of "brothers." They've been explicit and consistent about what a platform means since they introduced the word into their corperate vocabulary. When they say platform, they mean brothers. That's what it means.



Soundwave on 20 September 2016
TheLastStarFighter said:
DélioPT said:
Unless NX is some sort of core (the actual NX concept) that you can just use by itself or pair it with attachable controllers or even plug it in a special dock to give it more power... more RAM...what have you.

It just doesn't make any sense, from Iwata's first comments to this guy's comments, to turn a console into TV connector.
There's got to be something more to this. Otherwise, why all the secrecy for a new handheld when no one is making handhelds?

This is a great point. They wouldn't be so secretive about a handheld with a TV dongle.  

I think they are scared some cheap tablet maker in China or Taiwan or Samsung will make a tablet with the swappable controller wings gimmick. 

It probably will be copied a lot but Nintendo wants their 6-8 month window to crow about being a special snowflake. Sony/MS are not the only ones that Nintendo has to think about, in fact Sony/MS are really not even the primary competetion any longer really. If the NX is what is being described in leaks, then they're basically leaving Sony/MS to the home console market. 



DélioPT on 20 September 2016
TheLastStarFighter said:
DélioPT said:
Unless NX is some sort of core (the actual NX concept) that you can just use by itself or pair it with attachable controllers or even plug it in a special dock to give it more power... more RAM...what have you.

It just doesn't make any sense, from Iwata's first comments to this guy's comments, to turn a console into TV connector.
There's got to be something more to this. Otherwise, why all the secrecy for a new handheld when no one is making handhelds?

This is a great point. They wouldn't be so secretive about a handheld with a TV dongle.  

Exactly!
What's the point? Specially with their most restrictive NDAs ever.

If it was a handheld they would just say: we are making a 3DS successor. Period.



Soundwave on 20 September 2016


This thing is a hybrid, Nintendo's designers likely all popped a design boner when they saw the hybrid prototype.

Itsa soooooooo cutey!!!

Japanese housewife will luv it!!

You can play on subway or while preparing ramen at home!! Or watching American baseball for fat American!

 

Search your feelings Nintendo fans. You know it to be true. 

SuperMetalDave 64:

I want my Polaris AMD PS4 Pro competing superconsole!!



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mountaindewslave on 20 September 2016
Ka-pi96 said:
Acevil said:

Actual development is done by GameFreak, but the company is basically management firm for Pokemon. They sort of decide the decision making of where it will go (Not like they actually would go anywhere else, since Nintendo owns a huge part of them and the actual IP itself.)

33% isn`t really a huge part, and is actually the same % that GameFreak owns of them. If GameFreak wanted to make say a home console Pokemon game rather than a handheld one I don`t expect the Pokemon Company would have all that much say in it.

Regardless, the term `make` games for it would still be incorrect since they aren`t actually making them either way.

Nintendo members founded 'Creatures' company, they own a portion of the Pokemon Company as well as the rights to the IP, they own a portion of Game Freak on their own and then Game Freak has a stake in the Pok. Co. I believe. HAL Labratories which also has a stake in the Pokemon IP is a fully controlled second party developer of Nintendo (Kirby series)

 

make no mistake, Nintendo is in control of all of the companies involved with Pokemon, whether distributing/marketing OR creating the g ames.  The reality is that if a larger corporation has a big enough percentage of ownership over you you're going to have to roll their way, not to mention the fact that Nintendo was largely involved with the creation of all of these parts except HAL Labratories

I also believe I've heard that due to how some of the business laws are structured in Japan that its actually favorable to have certain aspects of your business broken off rather than directly internal (i.e. Nintendo not ever bothering to absorb some of these fractions directly and fully)

end the end the big N controls the IP and that makes them boss.

as for the question on hand- I think this is an extreme exaggeration, the Pokemon Company has in fact been involved with console developed Pokemon games before.... this statement doesn't mean anything on its own



TheLastStarFighter on 20 September 2016
spemanig said:
Miyamotoo said:

NX is referred like platform that treats handheld and console as brothers only in January 2013, year after that Iwata said this:

 "Still, I am not sure if the form factor (the size and configuration of the hardware) will be integrated.

  Whether we will ultimately need just one device will be determined by what consumers demand in the future, and that is not something we know at the moment

Reggie literally called NX a platform like three months ago.

NX is a console or a platform?

Always a platform.

That was at E3. Don't make stuff up.

That's pretty explicit.  



theprof00 on 20 September 2016

Called it well over a year ago.
Top vgc preduktor



Soundwave on 20 September 2016

Even if there are different form factors, the "console" will flop.

The Wii U can barely sell 1/5th of the 3DS (same goes for GameCube to GBA) even with a host of better exclusives and way better graphics.

Now you're going to remove whatever exclusives it had left (bye bye Splatoon, Mario Maker was already gone, bye bye Breath of the Wild, Bayonetta, etc.) and pump up the graphics of the portable so that's close to the console (has to be, can't have a unified library without this).

Remove the exclusives and close the graphics gap from like 20:1 down to like maybe 3:1 at best ... and the console is just a glorified accessorie, like what VitaTV is to the PSVita.  

Why force people to pay an additional $200+ just to play games on their TV. Most people are going to say "fuck that". Only Nintendo fans who just MUST have a Nintendo box under their TV are going to be interested and this is already a small audience as is.

If unified library is what Nintendo wants, they might as well just do the hybrid thing (which is what multiple sources are reporting) and then maybe have the option for a supplemental home dock (maybe). No one but a tiny group of Nintendo loyalists is going to spend $400+ to buy both devices that play the same games, and very few people are choosing the console over the portable when there is no difference in library and only a variable difference in graphics. 



Game_God on 20 September 2016
Miyamotoo said:
wombat123 said:

I agree.  At this point, almost everyone has their idea of what the NX is and is looking for confirmation bias in every bit of rumors or 'leaks' to solidify their point-of-view.  Someone who believes the NX is a hybrid sees this as more confirmation to that fact.  I think the NX is one platform with multiple sepearate devices so my confirmation bias sees this as them saying that they are only making games for one Nintendo platform rather than two seperate Nintendo platforms like in the past.

Thats point, everything indicates that NX is really hybrid, nothing indicates that NX is platform with multiple separate devices.

 

 

Game_God said:

There, I corrected it for you, because you know, information is based on facts, not rumours, that's why rumours are called rumours ;)

 

By "if we count what Nintendo recently was saying", you meant the few things Nintendo did actually say about the NX, like:

IWATA: Last year we also started a project to integrate the architecture for our future platforms.

What we mean by integrating platforms is not integrating handhelds devices and home consoles to make only one machine.

What we are aiming at is to integrate the architecture to form a common basis for software development so that we can make software assets more transferrable, and operating systems and their build-in applications more portable, regardless of form factor or performance of each platform. They will also work to avoid software lineup shortages or software development delays which tend to happen just after the launch of new hardware.

 

Come & play the Crow game if you ar so sure of your theory:

http://gamrconnect.vgchartz.com/thread.php?id=220345&page=1#

I said infos with purpose because EG don't make whole article based just on some random rumours, they had confirmations for infos they had.

 

That wasn't nothing recently, that was from January 2013. but this statement is from March 2014. when they were more ahad with NX plans:

IWATA: "Still, I am not sure if the form factor (the size and configuration of the hardware) will be integrated.

  Whether we will ultimately need just one device will be determined by what consumers demand in the future, and that is not something we know at the moment. However, we are hoping to change and correct the situation in which we develop games for different platforms individually and sometimes disappoint consumers with game shortages as we attempt to move from one platform to another, and we believe that we will be able to deliver tangible results in the future."

 

 

Soundwave said:

Yup, in Jan 2013 he's talking about "brother devices", but a year later in Jan. 2014 he's now suddenly unsure if they need one device or multiple. 

My guess is by this point, the R&D staff was pushing the hybrid concept hard, and that's the one that won out in the end. 

Agree, in time when Iwata said this they probably start pushing hard to hybrid idea.

Don't forget that part of the quote: "In contrast, the number of form factors might increase. Currently, we can only provide two form factors because if we had three or four different architectures, we would face serious shortages of software on every platform."

It goes either way, he says maybe 1 maybe more than 2, so it proves nothing!

Again, all EG have are rumours, facts need evidence!



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