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foxtail on 24 September 2016
ICStats said:
Raistline said:

In my case burn-in will not be an issue since the TV will be used more for video than for Video Gaming and it will almost never have a static image on it. The grayscale and brightness levels virutally go hand-in-hand and when watching dark scenes in movies OLED still looks much better so it is a comprimise I would be willing to take. From what I have seen I have not seen any noticable artifacting, at least no more than with other TV's.

I cannot speak for the lifespan of the TV but if it will last the 5-7+ years that a TV is good for nowadays, than it is good enough. 

I still stand by my point that from a pure Picture Quality standpoint, in both film and gaming, the LG OLED is the best TV out there.

Letter boxes create a constant static image (black on letter-box, bright on the interior).  I've had burn in on two plasma screens, so I'm hesitant to invest a lot of $$$$$ into a display that seems to have the same problems.

I agree otherwise, the LG OLEDS have beautiful picture (though processing and upscaling not as good as Sony & Samsung).

I bought one of the last Panasonic Plasma's produced (it was the 1080p entry level) and I think they've improved on image retention greatly over past sets.  I never get any retention/burn in but I think it's partly due to me breaking in the set when brand new with 100+ hours of color slides.  I watch a fair amount of letter-box content (I also avoid overscan) but limit it to no more than 6 hours straight and then break it up with some full screen content.  

 

On the subject of OLED, here's a good comparison article for OLED vs LCD - http://flatpanelshd.com/news.php?subaction=showfull&id=1474618766



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Sagemode87 on 24 September 2016
Robert_Downey_Jr. said:

So I'm shopping around looking for the best TV to pair with my PS4 Pro.  Don't need a ton of screen size but looking for something that will take full advantage.  I've heard that OLED makes a big difference with colors even compared to other HDR and 4k sets.  The 4k and HDR are essential since that's what I'm getting the Pro to see.  The OLED I'm willing to be convinced either way whether it's worth the extra bucks.  I mean there's a 43" Sony that has HDR10 but no OLED then there's a 55" LG that is OLED but is about $1,000 more expensive.  Have you guys put a lot of research into this or seen them side by side?  What TV would you recommend for getting the most out of a PS4 Pro?

EDIT:  Also guys I forgot to mention that input lag is NOT a concern!  I have never noticed and don't play competitively online so not an issue to consider for me when selecting TVs.  I'm also getting it a lot for movie viewing

You won't regret the Oled, the picture quality is worth the extra money. Playing in game mode, you won't notice any input lag. I have the 55 inch version myself. 



Sagemode87 on 25 September 2016
Azuren said:
Raistline said:

In my case burn-in will not be an issue since the TV will be used more for video than for Video Gaming and it will almost never have a static image on it. The grayscale and brightness levels virutally go hand-in-hand and when watching dark scenes in movies OLED still looks much better so it is a comprimise I would be willing to take. From what I have seen I have not seen any noticable artifacting, at least no more than with other TV's.

I cannot speak for the lifespan of the TV but if it will last the 5-7+ years that a TV is good for nowadays, than it is good enough. 

I still stand by my point that from a pure Picture Quality standpoint, in both film and gaming, the LG OLED is the best TV out there.

Dark scenes are actually when OLEDs fall short. The sudden dip into perfect black loses a lot of detail in said darkness; detail an LED would retain. 

 

And its blues will get worse and worse until they die off completely. That starts at 3 years. 

 

Wildcard36qs said:

From everything I've read, OLED burn in is no worse than plasma. I have a 2007 58" Panasonic 720P plasma that was abused in a conference room for years displaying static images before I took it home. It had burn-in that I worked hard to remove, and now it has image retention issues when my desktop is showing that taskbar, but it goes away nearly instantly once I watch something. OLED cannot be that bad. I think you are blowing it up out of proportion a bit.

And with lifespan it is a non-issue: http://www.flatpanelshd.com/news.php?subaction=showfull&id=1465304750

Sure maybe the first gen LG OLED had some issues, but they have quickly improved upon that.

OLED is by far the best thing we have right now. Stunning displays to behold in person.

Yes it will last that long before the diode goes out. But the blues will be done at 3 years.

 

Not one of my OLED displays managed to go without burn-in. Even my 2016's have it. It's ridiculous. 

 

And like I've said before; OLED is a dead end. There's no way to make those blues last significantly longer, so R&D into solving the other problems will dip, and LG will just be content selling imperfect OLEDs every year to people who think Rtings.com is a perfect example of what TVs to buy; they've admitted themselves that they don't have a way to test artifact reduction vs noise reduction, nor do their reviews reflect reliability; only performance at optimum levels. 

I'm not sure about the rest of Oled tvs, but I know that LG uses white pixels against a color filter. The blue issue won't be a problem. 



WoodenPints on 07 October 2016

Are the X800D not out in the UK or in Europe in general yet or have they got a different name? Seemed to be a good quality/price balance and I was going to look into one.



Azuren on 07 October 2016
Sagemode87 said:
Azuren said:

Dark scenes are actually when OLEDs fall short. The sudden dip into perfect black loses a lot of detail in said darkness; detail an LED would retain. 

 

And its blues will get worse and worse until they die off completely. That starts at 3 years. 

 

Yes it will last that long before the diode goes out. But the blues will be done at 3 years.

 

Not one of my OLED displays managed to go without burn-in. Even my 2016's have it. It's ridiculous. 

 

And like I've said before; OLED is a dead end. There's no way to make those blues last significantly longer, so R&D into solving the other problems will dip, and LG will just be content selling imperfect OLEDs every year to people who think Rtings.com is a perfect example of what TVs to buy; they've admitted themselves that they don't have a way to test artifact reduction vs noise reduction, nor do their reviews reflect reliability; only performance at optimum levels. 

I'm not sure about the rest of Oled tvs, but I know that LG uses white pixels against a color filter. The blue issue won't be a problem. 

And there's a blue in that color filter that goes bad. 



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TheTruthHurts! on 07 October 2016

I have a 65 inch Samsung UE65JS9500, quantumdot, HDR TV.

I think it is amazing and has 4K streaming smart aps to couple awesome upscaling capabilities.

I paid around 2k.



DialgaMarine on 07 October 2016

I have the 43 inch Sony X8000D. I haven't really been able to make much use of it in 4K yet, but even just using my regular PS4, everything just looks shaper and more vibrant than my 40 inch 1080p Sony Bravia. I can't wait to see what actual 4K gaming will look like when I get my PS4 Pro.



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Normchacho on 07 October 2016

From the little bit of research I've done it looks like the Samsung KS8000 series seem to be really good 4K HDR gaming tvs.



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Azuren on 07 October 2016
TheTruthHurts! said:
I have a 65 inch Samsung UE65JS9500, quantumdot, HDR TV.

I think it is amazing and has 4K streaming smart aps to couple awesome upscaling capabilities.

I paid around 2k.

JS9500 is nanocrystal, not quantumdot.



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GameAnalyser on 07 October 2016

I'll live with my 4k LG monitor. Try to be careful as OLED LG series have been reporting banding issues.