Article and the profile pic really do drive that point home

My thoughts exactly xD

For $399 it is nothing short of amazing, only bad thing is exclusion of a 4k bluray drive.

Also never understand the cheap pc vs console argument. All the people I know in pc gaming built pc's above $800, often twice that with the latest cpus and gpus and are on yearly upgrade cycles. PC gamers want a notable difference against the consoles and this whole ""console price" is going against that.

Who is actually buying a $299-399 pc with the intent of playing at console settings, not only is your pc hopelessly outdated but you're also missing out on all the AAA exclusives like Uncharted, Horizon, God of War and Spiderman. This wass the reasoning 2-3 years ago and still valid today, only difference is PS4 Pro is now providing the equivalent of even pricier pcs, at the same cost. Looking at Tomb Raider and Deus Ex, it's not exactly 1:1 but who cares when it costs $1000 less.

Noticed the Biased by omitting any and all advantages the PC has?
What about the free online? Cheaper games? Cheaper accessories? Cheaper DLC?
There are more to a platforms costs than just the outright hardware. (And I would argue their choice of hardware wasn't the most cost-effective either.)

Pretty sure we haven't had a deep architectural analysis with die-shots etc' to know exactly the kind of GPU that is in the PS4 Pro and whether or not it is actually Polaris based or a slightly modified GCN 1.1 type block like what was in the regular PS4.

Cerny even states that the chip itself "adopted many new features from the AMD Polaris architecture." which lends credence to the idea that it is not actually  a pure GCN 4.0 design like what is found in Polaris.

It's still not native 4k whatever way you look at it. Frame Reconstruction, Upscaling? They help, but they aren't true 4k and the quality will be a compromised.

The sweet spot for a Graphics chip at this level is going to be 2560x1440 for 60fps.

If 4k is *truly* important to you, then PC is your only choice, plain and simple.

If 4k Blu-Ray is important to you, then the Xbox One S is a viable contender.
Either way, I would wait for Scorpio to see how the cards fall so to speak, if it's Vega based and using HBM it might just be the 4k console we have been looking for.

Funny you say that, before Polaris launched I was excited at the prospect of having Four of them... Then when it did launch I was like...


And now console gamers think it's the second coming.

That was entirely expected though, those games aren't exactly cutting edge/demanding, you can expect a similar experience on PC with similar GPU grunt.

This.

Fact is that Playstation narrowed the gap to PC gaming and the difference in the coming year will be marginal.

Well said.  I'm really excited for what they can pull off with the ps5. I didn't think what they've pulled off was possible in 2016 so I'm excited for 2020.

Sounds like he isn't even a "die hard" PC gamer. Most I've seen and read that are dedicated PC gamers never talk about a console the way he does, he's more gushing for it and all "welp PC gaming got kicked in the weeds" kind of talk. We are in this day and age where I can own a laptop from 10 years ago and still make that easy claim that I'm a die hard PC gamer without actually doing any saif PC gaming. It's like how easy it is to say tosomeone on the street that I donate my free time to the Red Cross without actually having to and people would have to take my word for it. 

Also he's comparing a PC for less of the price of the Pro and not comparing a build that is better to play at native 4k. End of the day a really dirt cheap PC (talking in the £2-300 range) setup won't be able to compete agains the PF ratio of the pro, but that doesn't mean to say we can't show up the differences between a high end setup vs the pro (which seems to get shoved out the door because of the price argument which is silly at that point toa rgue).

Also just like to point out that OP left the alst piece of the article out (of course for convenience sake): 

Custom PC builders need not fear: there are still enormous advantages to building your own PC, not least the ability to upgrade the graphics card every two or three years when gaming technology advances. That, and the fact actually buying PC games is a lot cheaper in the long run. The so-called 'PC Master Race' probably isn’t worried, but everybody else looking for higher quality graphics on consoles should be delighted.

So pretty much like all Sony/Microsoft consoles when they launched? It's always been like that.

provide specs for your Laptop before saying something like that.

Most PC gamers in gaming forums like these or else were cant run games at 4K so whats your point here? Its confirmed that it runs games around 1440-1800P which is a pretty high standard for average PC gamers.

Who cares about UHD player?  its a console for gaming, i much rather take the low price than useless stuff like this. PS4 Pro will also record gameplay in 1080p 30fps if you dont own a capture card another thing more usefull as a gamer.

i thought Sony is broke?

Im very impressed with the Pro personally. 4K and souped up 1080p for that price is fantastic.