Someone mentioned Apple, which brought me back to 2007 when they flatly declared they would not support BD nor make them an option in Macs, which I wanted at the time in my next MBP.

Turns out they weren't far off the mark, but it just seems quite surreal that Sony, the company that more or less led the consortium that pushed BD as the default HD optical media format has essentially declared 4K BD a dead end.

I could see Sony caving in and adding it eventually if the Xbox really starts gaining significantly from having it.

It's still fucking stupid though for Sony not to include it in the first place though. "Here's our upgraded console for the Playstation fans who want 4K..... that doesn't play 4K Blu-Rays". Even if it's a feature that some of you seem to think nobody will use a lot or be a selling point, the fact that apparently it's so cheap to add in it just makes no sense, plus it would always be nice to have just for the future because maybe now someone won't think they'll use it but now but they could change their mind in the future.

And honestly I think Sony making a revision of the PS4 Pro right before the Scorpio comes out just so they can add in 4K UHD would just look really stupid on their part. So there would now be 4 PS4 variants, a PS4 regular and PS4 Slim, then a PS4 Pro and PS4 Pro Slim? Sounds just like an iPhone with the 6, 6 Plus, 6S, and 6S Plus. Just for a feature they could have easily added from the beginning.

Yeah but all variants wouldn't be on sale simultaneously.  Like they'd only sell the new Pro and the slim.  2 sku's on sale at once. 

What would happen is that Sony would still offer 2 models, but with the UHD player upgrade as an added feature at the same (reduced actually) price. The existing PS4 P would be replaced, and I'd assume the PS4 S wouldn't get the UHD player upgrade. 

Ok, well that makes more sense. But it still just seems completely pointless for a revision of the PS4 Pro for 4K UHD when it's a feature that they could have had right from the beginning, especially when it's apparently cheap to add in as well. 

I understand maybe they didn't include it becasue they wanted to hit that $399 price, but I feel like even if they had to bring up the price just to have it included that would have been fine since they said PS4 Pro is a product for the people that want that extra power so I don't think those people would have minded paying more for a 4K UHD to be included. 

I don't see the average consumer that doesn't pay attention to gaming and stuff on the internet carying about the PS4 Pro anyway. They would just see 2 models, probably ask someone working there about them, find out that they play the exact same games and that one of them is $100 cheaper than the other? Sold for the PS4 Slim. So I feel like if Sony had to bring up the price to include it they should have done that since this will only be for the people that truly pay attention to power and stuff like that anyway. 

Wow!! suddenly as if everybody have a UHD TV's 

perhaps i'm outdated because 4k gaming or movies really don't attract me like SD to HD...

It wouldnt matter. It would just come off as a nice little new addition. Kimda how the 360 didnt launch with a HDMI port and then it mysteriously started appearing in some models aroumd when the PS3 launched.

However, I feel Sony won't even bother. And rather than add a BR drive in the system, they just drop the price of the Neo.

Hell if I were them I would make an external 4K BR drive reader that plugs into the PS4pro via USB. They can easily sell something like that for $100.

1. We don't know Scorpio's price. Its not crazy to presume it will be $399.

2. There would be a massive amount of backlash if Sony released a new PS4 with a UHD drive. They need to wait a few years and maybe put it in a PS4 Pro Slim.

3. UHD isn't just a Scorpio selling point, X1 S already has UHD support. Frankly, Sony made a bad call. Both the PS4 Slim and PS4 Pro should have UHD support.

If PS4 Slim and PS4 Pro supported 4K Blurays, perhaps there would be more demand.

I get your point, but Sony also makes over priced 4K Bluray players. Why not put UHD support in the PS4 to create demand for more physical movies?

It just seems really odd the X1 S has UHD support at $299, while both PS4 Slim and Pro lack it.

Bet it will happen and it will screw over PS4 Pro early adopters.

Because you can bet MS is going to be crowing from every rooftop that they have the only real 4K machine with both 4K games native and 4K movie playback with Scorpio ... you know they are going to push that angle hard.

Sony is likely going to be forced to add it. But that's also why I'm very nervous about buying a PS4 Pro, I could get screwed on that.