Yea the people it doesn't affect shouldn't be whining cause its not a selling feature for them. For me it is as I explained in another post. But oh well, for me it isn't ever a matter of ps4 neo vs xbox one. For me its either the ps4 neo or the ps4 slim/og. So its not like Sony will ever lose a sale over MS, just would have prefered a box that does everything like how the ps3 did when Blurays were such a new thing.

The price and the power of it are the selling points.
Those they hit well enough.

Design? I think it looks better than the slim, kinda reminds me abit of the PS2.
They added back that led-light strip, which will light up between the spaces of the "sandwhich" layers :p

PS2 had those rills & layers too:

About the PS4 Slim.... that 299$ price point through me abit... I was really hopeing they would have done 249$.

On the other hand 399$ for the Pro, was a jaw drop moment.

I wasnt expecting anything under 449$ for the PS4neo.

Amazing Prices for that hardware! And... FOR GAMING!!

MS will likely use the lack of a 4K Bluray player as a sales argument, claiming Xbox One S is the only true 4K console on the market. So I think this was a missed opportunity by Sony. The thing wasn't overhyped, but it did underdeliver somewhat.

Happens every single time for these type of events and will continue to do so until the end of time, OP.

Funny how the roles reversed from last gen.  

I believe the xbox 360 benefited greatly from having no blu ray player last gen as it could be priced much lower.  

And I believe Sony will benefit from this decision as it keeps the ps4 pro @399. Which puts it firmly within mass market consumer range. 

Microsoft has tried many, many marketing tactics to gain an upperhand in the sales department, and not only did nothing work, but things have only gotten better for sony, and worse for microsoft. With that said, you need to explain how the xbox one s provides "true 4k", because while the ps4 pro doesn't have a 4k blu ray drive and the xbox one s does, the console can't play games in 4k like the ps4 pro can. so, it seems both consoles provide something different when it comes to 4k, the pro does gaming in 4k, while the xbox one s has a 4k blu ray drive for movies

It really isn't. It's a very smart move.

These are the same specs that leaked months ago. People were disappointed with them then, before all the hype. Makes sense they'd still feel it's a weak upgrade.

Can't believe they are not putting in UHD disc support, lulz.

And this is a reason why speculation does not play always in favor of the products...