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Azuren on 08 September 2016
starcraft said:
Does anyone know whether the device is physically incapable of playing 4k Blu-Rays? Is there some scope for a software update if they agree to pay the licensing fees?

I think this will have a marginal effect on sales of the console.

But it certainly gives me pause. I want one device under my TV. Right now thats a PS4. I have access to an Xbox One at my brother's place down the road.

I was considering an upgrade to the Xbox One S.

My challenge is now this. I will be a day one Mass Effect player. The best version at this stage is likely to be a PS4 Pro. But it seems nonsensical to purchase a new device, touted as premium, that doesn't play the new format of media. I would literally be purchasing a playback device that doesn't use my television's features.

So am I better off waiting for Scorpio?

Decisions, decisions.

After long deliberation, I asked myself: "When was the last time you watched a physical media disc? Rental or otherwise?"

 

And you know what? I can't remember. It's been ages since I opened up a jewel case for a movie. So what this is coming down to for me is this:

 

"Will this support 4K Vudu?"



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starcraft on 08 September 2016
Azuren said:
starcraft said:
Does anyone know whether the device is physically incapable of playing 4k Blu-Rays? Is there some scope for a software update if they agree to pay the licensing fees?

I think this will have a marginal effect on sales of the console.

But it certainly gives me pause. I want one device under my TV. Right now thats a PS4. I have access to an Xbox One at my brother's place down the road.

I was considering an upgrade to the Xbox One S.

My challenge is now this. I will be a day one Mass Effect player. The best version at this stage is likely to be a PS4 Pro. But it seems nonsensical to purchase a new device, touted as premium, that doesn't play the new format of media. I would literally be purchasing a playback device that doesn't use my television's features.

So am I better off waiting for Scorpio?

Decisions, decisions.

After long deliberation, I asked myself: "When was the last time you watched a physical media disc? Rental or otherwise?"

 

And you know what? I can't remember. It's been ages since I opened up a jewel case for a movie. So what this is coming down to for me is this:

 

"Will this support 4K Vudu?"

I see what you're saying.

My physical media consumption has plummeted. But for key films and TV shows that are a visual spectacle and of particular interest to me I still buy them.

I have relatively fast internet for an Australian, but I wont be able to get higher speeds until at least 2019. Even then (if I can afford them), streaming providers wont stop compressing their data streams, as too few people will be able to receive them.

For years to come, getting top quality out of your high-end equipment is going to necessitate physical media.

As such, this new PS4 does not seem very 'Pro' to me...



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Azuren on 08 September 2016
starcraft said:
Azuren said:

After long deliberation, I asked myself: "When was the last time you watched a physical media disc? Rental or otherwise?"

 

And you know what? I can't remember. It's been ages since I opened up a jewel case for a movie. So what this is coming down to for me is this:

 

"Will this support 4K Vudu?"

I see what you're saying.

My physical media consumption has plummeted. But for key films and TV shows that are a visual spectacle and of particular interest to me I still buy them.

I have relatively fast internet for an Australian, but I wont be able to get higher speeds until at least 2019. Even then (if I can afford them), streaming providers wont stop compressing their data streams, as too few people will be able to receive them.

For years to come, getting top quality out of your high-end equipment is going to necessitate physical media.

As such, this new PS4 does not seem very 'Pro' to me...

For me, I don't feel I will have any problem (200mbps), but I can see how it would be an issue for others.

 

Maybe Vudu will reintroduce pre-downloading movies for viewing? That'd solve the problem.



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Kerotan on 08 September 2016
Puppyroach said:
I don't it's a huge deal in any way, but isn't it strange that the PS4Pro can't play 4K Blurays when Sony is one of the founders of Bluray? Is the console even a 4K console, or does it only upscale to 4K and therefore isn't able to play actual 4K content from a disc? It would explain why it only offers streaming in 4K and not Blurays.

Even on powerful pc's it struggles to pull off native 4k with a decent frame rate especially for open world games.  you can be certain though,  even if it's not native,  the PS4 Pro games will look awesome on your 4k TV and that's what really matters. 



Soundwave on 08 September 2016
Kerotan said:
Puppyroach said:
I don't it's a huge deal in any way, but isn't it strange that the PS4Pro can't play 4K Blurays when Sony is one of the founders of Bluray? Is the console even a 4K console, or does it only upscale to 4K and therefore isn't able to play actual 4K content from a disc? It would explain why it only offers streaming in 4K and not Blurays.

Even on powerful pc's it struggles to pull off native 4k with a decent frame rate especially for open world games.  you can be certain though,  even if it's not native,  the PS4 Pro games will look awesome on your 4k TV and that's what really matters. 

Or you could just buy an Scorpio that can actually run the games at 4K native (or at least more regularily than the PS4 Pro will). And probably play 4K Blu-Rays, without having to pay an additional $300+. 



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Azuren on 08 September 2016
Soundwave said:
Kerotan said:

Even on powerful pc's it struggles to pull off native 4k with a decent frame rate especially for open world games.  you can be certain though,  even if it's not native,  the PS4 Pro games will look awesome on your 4k TV and that's what really matters. 

Or you could just buy an Scorpio that can actually run the games at 4K native. And probably play 4K Blu-Rays.  

Or you can build a PC and run everything the Scorpio can and then some. 



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Soundwave on 08 September 2016
Azuren said:
Soundwave said:

Or you could just buy an Scorpio that can actually run the games at 4K native. And probably play 4K Blu-Rays.  

Or you can build a PC and run everything the Scorpio can and then some. 

Yeah I could but I prefer not to have a Tower PC in my living room, like most people. And even then, I'm still shit out of luck with the 4K Blu-Ray, a PC doesn't magically offer a 4K BR drive for free. 

Scorpio is the only one of the bunch that will run 4K games and 4K movie discs without costing like $700+. 

I don't know how Microsoft of all companies is the only one that got this 4K thing right. 



Azuren on 08 September 2016
Soundwave said:
Azuren said:

Or you can build a PC and run everything the Scorpio can and then some. 

Yeah I could but I prefer not to have a Tower PC in my living room, like most people. 

You can build/buy some pretty sleak gaming PCs. I wouldn't be surprised if the Scorpio is bigger than a G20.



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Kerotan on 08 September 2016
Soundwave said:
Kerotan said:

Even on powerful pc's it struggles to pull off native 4k with a decent frame rate especially for open world games.  you can be certain though,  even if it's not native,  the PS4 Pro games will look awesome on your 4k TV and that's what really matters. 

Or you could just buy an Scorpio that can actually run the games at 4K native (or at least more regularily than the PS4 Pro will). And probably play 4K Blu-Rays, without having to pay an additional $300+. 

Or I'm like 90% of the market and don't care about 4k blu rays so would rather get an upgraded console now rather than in 12 months.  And save money while I'm at it because the scorpio will be nowhere near $400. 

 



COKTOE on 08 September 2016
starcraft said:
Azuren said:

After long deliberation, I asked myself: "When was the last time you watched a physical media disc? Rental or otherwise?"

 

And you know what? I can't remember. It's been ages since I opened up a jewel case for a movie. So what this is coming down to for me is this:

 

"Will this support 4K Vudu?"

I see what you're saying.

My physical media consumption has plummeted. But for key films and TV shows that are a visual spectacle and of particular interest to me I still buy them.

I have relatively fast internet for an Australian, but I wont be able to get higher speeds until at least 2019. Even then (if I can afford them), streaming providers wont stop compressing their data streams, as too few people will be able to receive them.

For years to come, getting top quality out of your high-end equipment is going to necessitate physical media.

As such, this new PS4 does not seem very 'Pro' to me...

I am among the biggest Sony marks on this site....this is a big oversight. The blowback has been a rare combo of both voluminous and rational. Should have had 4k BR playback imo........smh. TBH. #hashtag



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