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TheLastStarFighter said:
Werix357 said:

I'm truly sorry I edited the tittle for you.

Don't let the harsh comments get to you, it was an interesting idea to throw out there. I think basically what your saying is imagine if COD and GTA went first party all of a sudden, taking their fans with them. If Mario and Zelda were selling 30 million copies on XBox and PlayStation, then Nintendo took the franchises back home, would the console be a success?  I don't think it would be a good idea, but it's an interesting discussion. 

 

I think they're dabbling with the concept on mobile. Release a game like Pokemon Go, hoping it hooks the broader market into buying the real games.

If Nintendo could pull off sales like GTA and COD as a 3rd party imo that would be a surprise, but yeah I think better bet is for them to make demo's on the open platforms like PC, smartphones and such. So PlayableTrailers but the full game would only release on Nintendo's hardware.



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BraLoD said:

I think some people just don't understand the appeal Nintendo IPs have, and how bad they manage they hardware development.
Going third party would be good for both of this. Nintendo would have more room to work with their games without the costs of holding the development and research on hardware, and their games would have a way, way bigger reach than they have nowdays, that would mean both costs reduction and more games being sold.

Also, Nintendo is a different case from the other consoles developers.
Nintendo doesn't have many reasons to bring people to their hardware devices other than selling games, as the others do, which make holding a hardware a good strategy on other aspects for them, while selling the most games possible is the best for Nintendo.
Nintendo doesn't compete tech wise with the others, so they hold no real ground to hold a different system, other than the "gimmicks" they may want to push on their controllers, which could also be side controllers to another platforms just as well.
Nintendo IPs are held back by the lack of market understanding the company have, which has been making their hardware go down constantly, reducing their consumers totals, while their games are both widely known and nostalgia filled, which without a doubt means they have lots of possible consumers to their games they just are not delivering to because they want to make them stick with their hardware to be able to do it, while the others developers are the ones that primarly attract those gamers.

I also don't understand why people think Nintendo quality would go down if they went third party, it would only go down if that means they only work well pressured as they are trying to make games to sell hardware, which is not the case, as they don't sell much hardware anyway, but keep selling games well.

Also the possible drawback on having less profit with each games as they would have to share some with the hardwares makers if going third party, would very likely be more than covered by the amount of games being sold now and the lack of development and research costs.

Nintendo may not be in need to go third party, they are far from "doomed", but it would be on their best interest to do so, IMO, as that would make them profit more, which would make more money available to make more games and marketing, etc.

The Hardware business is definately harder then the software side I mean look at the money Microsoft has poured into it and they are still struggling.

I think Nintendo's approach to hardware devolpment adds to the risk factor, as they seem to apply the same atitude with which they develop their games to hardware development. Of coarse greater risks can come with greater reward



Sega as we knew it (in terms of entity, quality and games output) is dead and most of the talent be it Yuji Naka or Suzuki among many others have left a long time ago, what we see now is Sammy in diguise that uses a selected marginally small number of Sega IPs and even this not very well. Sega used to be a very strong competitor and innovater in the business and their output was similarily prolific as Nintendos. Nowadays what´s left of their talent that made Sega the big deal back then?

Keep in mind what we see nowadays includes Sammys IPs and developers. Even SegaSammy as a whole has a weaker output in the console business and without the buyout of Atlus, another non-Sega and seperate entity, the comparisons aren´t favourable.

Really a loss, just imagine Sega still beeing as prolific as they were. The game landscape wouldn´t be as monotonous as it is today.



Not such a horrible idea imo. Let Sony and MS advertise the shit out of your games for years, get new fans and then go back to making hardware.



RolStoppable said:
Werix357 said:

Demo's on PC could work well

Too much extra work.

This would be an advertisement just depends if you get a return for the effort put in they could also charge a small fee to keep cost down.



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Or...and here me out on this...

The NX is successful and this thread becomes just as pointless about how Sony would go bankrupt during the PS3 era?



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KLXVER said:
Not such a horrible idea imo. Let Sony and MS advertise the shit out of your games for years, get new fans and then go back to making hardware.

Yeah that's what i thought, but not many think it would even come close to working. :)



Shiken said:
Or...and here me out on this...

The NX is successful and this thread becomes just as pointless about how Sony would go bankrupt during the PS3 era?

Yes that is a slight chance ;)



Well, Sega did go third party. Look what happened to them.



IMO Nintendo would be better off just accepting a deal with Microsoft. They could take control of the XBox division and retain a good chunk of the licensing fees/royalties and keep control of hardware design.

Microsoft would allow it because I don't think Microsoft is really all that enamored by the game business anyway. They like the prestige the XBox brand gives them, but letting Nintendo take management of said brand over I think they'd be OK with that.

Nintendo could also release games for Windows PC in that scenario.

Sony can't match that deal because I doubt they'd be willing to share control and licensing fees of the Playstation division with Nintendo. It's a better deal for Nintendo than just turning into a regular third party. 

A joint Nintendo + XBox platform would sell at least 50-60 million consoles (plenty for Nintendo to gain a wider audience), have all the third party support, and they'd also have Windows PC users to tap into, which is tens of millions more in consumers.