Cooling is a little noisy? If this thing is actively cooled, I'll eat my own shorts!
Poor battery life is something I'm resigned to. Crossing my fingers for a removable battery. I bought a 5000mah battery for my 3ds, and that was the end of my battery woes for that system, hopefully I'll be able to do the same for the NX.
Vena said:
People need to stop talking about SoCs at random. The Parker-X2 (Pascal) is an enormous SoC for cars, no one is going to use that in a handheld. The NX is already rumored (heavily) to not be on Maxwell to begin with, its going to be Pascal. The information provided here is obviously of a similar source as the Eurogamer source and not representative of the finalized kits or model. Loud fans would be the first give away. They are not going to use an X1. The dev kits are running a maxed out X1 for performance reasons to match where a Pascal-based chip would ballpark. Nvidia's development of 20nm Pascal is only recent, and so the kits that are leaking would not be representative of the newer chipsets. No one is running an X1 in handheld maxed in a retail unit unless they want to start fires, especially 14mm thick ones. |
From what I've read the Drive PX2 is a board made of twoTegra X2 SoCs and two discrete GPUs. I haven't seen any indication of the X2 being essentially larger than the X1. Also the the fact it has the same count of gpu cores, less cpu cores (although likely larger) and the smaller 16nm node doesn't seem to indicate a larger chip either. But if you have more precise information or better knowledge of those architectures, please explain.
| Soundwave said:
Emily Rogers updated today with these two tid-bits, reiterating it's below an XB1 in power, and from what she's heard the battery life is not great (worse than 3DS?). Also no camera/mic on the main unit which seems kinda weird. The "dock" has 2 USB 2.0 ports and 1 USB 3.0. Nintendo is "ahead" of schedule on a March launch according to her, probably means there will be a good amount of software. Take it for whatever it's worth. I have no idea if she's right or wrong. This is her rundown: Here is what you can expect from the final retail product:
Note: I am not saying that NX won’t have a mic or camera. I am saying that the camera and mic aren’t built inside of the NX portable device. |
So these are the things she 100% confident the NX will have or will this be subject to change as well?
| freebs2 said: From what I've read the Drive PX2 is a board made of twoTegra X2 SoCs and two discrete GPUs. I haven't seen any indication of the X2 being essentially larger than the X1. Also the the fact it has the same count of gpu cores, less cpu cores (although likely larger) and the smaller 16nm node doesn't seem to indicate a larger chip either. But if you have more precise information or better knowledge of those architectures, please explain. |
The thing that is the "X2" is the Parker which is for cars, its made of Pascal-based cores. You're confusing the label "X2" which at this point basically means nothing as its not really succeeding the X1 in the same way which was initially an attempt to push K1 further into gaming and SHIELD, but now has completely moved to automotives.
The NX will not be using the X1, which is based on Maxwell, but a custom chip based on Pascal. The dev kits have maxed out/oc-ed Maxwell based X1s because they can achieve ~roughly~ equivalent performances by being clocked high enough relative to a more efficient Pascal chip. Such a device would need internal cooling or it will melt, and so its not surprising that dev kits (which is what these rumors would be based on) would have active cooling. The NX itself may also have active cooling if it has different opperation profiles between battery and plugged in (much like a laptop).
Pascal is largely about efficiency gains over the Maxwell chips as the shrink isn't that large, but it also has decent performance gains.
That said, anything that is coded to take advantage of Pascal over GCN1.1 will have real world performance approaching that of the twins, but this will depend on where Nintendo clocks this thing and how it is (or if it is) cooled. Also its mobile.
This is much like the Gamecube in how it is designed, a lot of high optimization and efficiency. Also its pretty much the cutting edge of mobile technology.
FunFan said:
Bigger than 6.2? You must have big pockets 0.0 |
I never really carry my 3ds in my pockets anyways.... sometimes it happends but usually its in a bag.
freebs2 said:
From what I've read the Drive PX2 is a board made of twoTegra X2 SoCs and two discrete GPUs. I haven't seen any indication of the X2 being essentially larger than the X1. Also the the fact it has the same count of gpu cores, less cpu cores (although likely larger) and the smaller 16nm node doesn't seem to indicate a larger chip either. But if you have more precise information or better knowledge of those architectures, please explain. |
I think you're right. The Tegra X2 on Drive PX2 probably is not any bigger/power hungrier than a Tegra X1, it's likely better in those situations.
A Drive PX2 is obviously for cars, that's not what people are saying will be in the NX. But a single Tegra X2 SoC, customized for Nintendo, probably is what will be in the NX IMO.
I mean, seeing as it's supposed to be a portable + home console, I think this is probably very accurate. Modern cellphones maybe put out a quarter of the power that PS4 and Xbone can do, and they can cost upwards of $700. We all know that Nintendo usually prefers to take the more cost effective route. I'm honestly expecting it to be about equal to Wii-U, which, if it is a dedicated portable, is still pretty damn impressive.
I just wish Nintendo would stop making us suffer through insider info and rumors, and just reveal the damn thing. I really want to see it.
| DialgaMarine2 said: I mean, seeing as it's supposed to be a portable + home console, I think this is probably very accurate. Modern cellphones maybe put out a quarter of the power that PS4 and Xbone can do, and they can cost upwards of $700. We all know that Nintendo usually prefers to take the more cost effective route. I'm honestly expecting it to be about equal to Wii-U, which, if it is a dedicated portable, is still pretty damn impressive. I just wish Nintendo would stop making us suffer through insider info and rumors, and just reveal the damn thing. I really want to see it. |
Smartphones have monstrous mark ups and Nintendo won't need a super high resolution display, a $700 phone in many cases costs like $200 to manufacture.
The bigger question is if they can get a chip like Tegra X2 at full clock/full power without
A) Melting the inside of the system from heat.
B) Having it not kill the battery in under 3 1/2 hours.
The Tegra X2 customized specifically for gaming IMO should be able to rip a Wii U to shreds in performance, I don't have much doubt there, I just hope Nintendo doesn't cheap out or gimp the chip.
Well, I hope the battery life issue is resolved, because so far that is my only main concern with these rumored details.
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| DialgaMarine2 said: I mean, seeing as it's supposed to be a portable + home console, I think this is probably very accurate. Modern cellphones maybe put out a quarter of the power that PS4 and Xbone can do, and they can cost upwards of $700. We all know that Nintendo usually prefers to take the more cost effective route. I'm honestly expecting it to be about equal to Wii-U, which, if it is a dedicated portable, is still pretty damn impressive. I just wish Nintendo would stop making us suffer through insider info and rumors, and just reveal the damn thing. I really want to see it. |
With that being the case, get ready for a gen of "that looks great, for a nx game. It can be impressive as he'll for a handheld, but when looking at what it can honestly offer for a home console, then What? It's supposed to replace both
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