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One thing I enjoyed doing in melee when I was just playing by myself was to play against 3 other comps, usually Free For Alls, and rotate the losing character out. It was simple fun, and a way to practice.

In Brawl, this isn't really fun anymore. Why? The AI has changed how it views you and computers in a FFA. In melee all characters were treated with equal priority. A level 9 computer would just jump in and fight. In Brawl however, it's more like a team game with friendly fire turned on. Computers don't really care about fighting other computers, they target you, and if they hurt each other in the process oh well. So often times in a stock match against 3 other level 9 computers I will get gang banged, elimanated and then it takes like 5 minutes for the comps to finish each other because they just won't fight. They will walk around, grab some items, maybe throw one at somebody. If they get too close to each other they might try to attack. Oddly enough though, if you make a 1v1 with only comps, no humans, they will actually attack each other like normal.

Right now, to test this and make sure I'm not just imagining it, I'm doing a 3 person FFA. I'm olimar vs DK and Peach (comps). I've done nothing but run, and try to avoid them in this 1 life stock match on Spear Pillar. They are at 0% and 20% damage respectively, I'm at 145%. They are just chasing me, and if they get too close to each other take a quick pot shot (which they will almost always dodge or block) and then return to chasing me. This has been going on for 3 minutes. They don't even care about each other. Peach got a smash ball, put us both to sleep and guess who she ran over to attack. She smash attacked me, and then started eating peaches, didn't even care about DK.

I greatly prefer the old AI which actually made it a Free For All, rather than a humans vs comps with friendly fire turned on.



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Maybe you're just a lot worse at brawl than you thought. :P



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nah he right i notice all the computer focus on you too ....like when I was playing .link got the smash ball 3 times on 5stock and every time he would try to get me with the final smash even tho zelda and mario was right next to him.



I didnt notice that so far, but I played very little of this game.
Fights against 3 comps lvl 9 in melee mode on Melee werent that attractive to me, I preferd 3 humans and 1 lvl 9 melee or 3 lvl 9 cpus in a team vs me.



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I guess the moral is play a computer 1v1 or a team vs. you, since FFA with bots sucks?

I guess that is a bit of a bummer, but I don't play with computers often anyway.



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Yeah I know it does this, I used to play FFA with comps too, now I just do teams vs comps, it seems though that other levels of computers don't do that, I haven't tested level 8 yet but you could try. Another thing me and my friend play FFA with 2 level 9 computers and they fought each other like they should instead of us, I really don't understand the reason for the teaming up for 1 player but if you change anything about the fight usually it works out better.



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lol, I'm pretty sure I've taken your marth down with my olimar in some 1v1.

No it's definately a bias on the computer's part. I redid the experiment on Final Destination. I was Olimar, vs pikachu and wario. They literally just ran back and forth on the stage chasing me, and occasionally wario would get hit by an pikachus neutral B, or Down B. They would actually be running with their character models on each other chasing me across the stage.

In classic mode the stage before master hand has you vs 3 comps and I thought it was strange that every once and a while one of the comps would just take a shot at another comp, but it's because it's just running a normal game with you vs 3 comps. They will target you specifically, but every once and a while take a shot at one another so it doesn't seem like they are just ganging up on you.



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I found playing 2 humans vrs 2 level 9 computers in a team battle to be great fun. Once you can beat them with ease you are basically fighting with your teammate for each KO. I ussually do stock 8-12, I really don't care for time battles unless it is all humans.



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Well, you could always do Team battle for a fair fight perhaps? Have a 3 man "FFA"? I wonder if they'd still be biased towards the human.

Damn robots, you can never trust them.



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What about other levels of CPU's?



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