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Who will win Super Bowl LI?

New England Patriots 51 47.66%
 
Kansas City Chiefs 3 2.80%
 
Pittsburgh Steelers 6 5.61%
 
Other (AFC) 3 2.80%
 
Dallas Cowboys 10 9.35%
 
Atlanta Falcons 15 14.02%
 
Seattle Seahawks 5 4.67%
 
Green Bay Packers 5 4.67%
 
Other (NFC) 4 3.74%
 
Scoreboard 5 4.67%
 
Total:107
MTZehvor said:
Chris Hu said:

Yeah I don't think Denver will make the playoffs the wildcard team will be the Raiders and the Ravens.  I think this is the first time since the superbowl era where both teams that made it to the championship game didn't make it into the playoffs the next year.

Nope, it actually happened two years in a row. New England and St. Louis missed the 2002 playoffs after Super Bowl 36. The following year, the Super Bowl 37 teams, Tampa Bay and Oakland, both missed the 2003 playoffs.

Well it doesn't happen very often though Oakland missed the following year because that team was old I guess that also applied to Tampa Bay.  New England missed because Brady was injured the following season and I guess St. Louis missed because of injuries and age.



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Chris Hu said:
MTZehvor said:

Nope, it actually happened two years in a row. New England and St. Louis missed the 2002 playoffs after Super Bowl 36. The following year, the Super Bowl 37 teams, Tampa Bay and Oakland, both missed the 2003 playoffs.

Well it doesn't happen very often though Oakland missed the following year because that team was old I guess that also applied to Tampa Bay.  New England missed because Brady was injured the following season and I guess St. Louis missed because of injuries and age.

I think you're thinking of 2008; Brady did suffer a shoulder separation in 2002, but it wasn't until the end of the season when the Patriots were already severely underperforming expectations. 2008 was the year that Bernard Pollard tore Brady's ACL and knocked him out for all but the first 15 or so minutes of the season. Oakland and St. Louis both lost their MVP caliber starting quarterbacks in the seasons following their Super Bowl losses, so part of their downturn is attributable to that. There's really no easy explanation for the 2002 Patriots or 2003 Bucs, however (especially the Bucs, as they had made the playoffs four straight years). Both teams were wildly inconsistent throughout the years following their Super Bowl wins, playing extremely well at times (Bucs shut out the NFC Finalist Eagles in Philly, while the Patriots blew out the eventual AFC East champion Jets by 37 points in Giants Stadium) and uncharateristically poorly at others.

It's likely that it was more a mental issue than some tangible problem such as age or injury. Teams can get complacent after winning (or reaching) a Super Bowl, especially if they fail to learn from their mistakes like I'm confident Carolina didn't. The Broncos have had the misfortune of being in what has suddenly become the NFL's toughest division and still having no QB. If I was them, I'd be looking into picking up Tony Romo or Jimmy Garoppolo after the season.



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2 MIA-NYJ
1 GB-CHI
1 CLE-BUF
2
PHI-BAL
2 TEN-KC
2 PIT-CIN
1 DET-NYG
1
IND-MIN
2 JAX-HOU
2 NO-ARI
2 SF-ATL
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OAK-SD
1 NE-DEN
1 TB-DAL
1 CAR-WAS
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LA-SEA
2 MIA-NYJ
1 GB-CHI
1 CLE-BUF
1
PHI-BAL
2 TEN-KC
2 PIT-CIN
1 DET-NYG
2
IND-MIN
2 JAX-HOU
2 NO-ARI
2 SF-ATL
2
OAK-SD
1 NE-DEN
1 TB-DAL
2 CAR-WAS
2 by 7



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LA-SEA
 2 MIA-NYJ
 2 GB-CHI
1 CLE-BUF
 2
PHI-BAL
 2 TEN-KC
 2 PIT-CIN
 1 DET-NYG
 1
IND-MIN
 2 JAX-HOU
 2 NO-ARI
 2 SF-ATL
OAK-SD
 1 NE-DEN
 1 TB-DAL
 2 CAR-WAS
1 by 1


RolStoppable said:
LA-SEA
2 MIA-NYJ
1 GB-CHI
1 CLE-BUF
2
PHI-BAL
2 TEN-KC
2 PIT-CIN
1 DET-NYG
1
IND-MIN
2 JAX-HOU
2 NO-ARI
2 SF-ATL
2
OAK-SD
1 NE-DEN
1 TB-DAL
2 CAR-WAS
2 by 7

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