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Is Donald Trump a sociopath?

Yes 303 60.84%
 
No 195 39.16%
 
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outlawauron said:
deskpro2k3 said:

Trump has no antisocial attitudes problem, but he is inciting violence. There are people that takes his words very seriously to heart. What is the word for people like that?

Trump on "2nd Amendment People" https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=u8ygeVnRxFA

 I see no difference in his comments about people standing up for what's important to them and the White House encouraging the BLM protests.

When the White House encouraged protests, it encouraged protests.  Trump encouraged gun-nuts to do a deliberately ambiguous something.

 

That's a dog whistle for assassination; this phenomenon isn't new (he's done it before, albeit for assault not murder) and people tend to answer the call sooner or later.  Either Trump knows what he's doing and incited violence or he doesn't know what he's doing and incited violence.

 

Being the Fascist sociopath that he is, I doubt he cares either way.



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SuaveSocialist said:
outlawauron said:

 I see no difference in his comments about people standing up for what's important to them and the White House encouraging the BLM protests.

When the White House encouraged protests, it encouraged protests.  Trump encouraged gun-nuts to do a deliberately ambiguous something.

That's a dog whistle for assassination; this phenomenon isn't new (he's done it before, albeit for assault not murder) and people tend to answer the call sooner or later.  Either Trump knows what he's doing and incited violence or he doesn't know what he's doing and incited violence.

wat. He deliberately encouraged something ambigous? So he encouraged nothing, but now you're saying it's for assasination. I mean, I think a lot of things he says are dumb, but saying that people care about the 2nd Amendment can stop Hillary/Democrats from limiting/banning guns isn't a call for hit. It's reactions like this that make it so because you want to believe he's an evil, fascist sociopath.

Really, I could turn your entire answer around and make it about the other side using the same logic.



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outlawauron said:
deskpro2k3 said:

Drumpf has no antisocial attitudes problem, but he is inciting violence. There are people that takes his words very seriously to heart. What is the word for people like that?

Drumpf on "2nd Amendment People" https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=u8ygeVnRxFA

So, when I heard the backlash from his comments, and I went and listened the speech. I don't see the coorelation as much as I was being told.

Real talk, how is this inciting violence any more than encouraging people to protest for any other perceived injustice? I see no difference in his comments about people standing up for what's important to them and the White House encouraging the BLM protests. I don't believe either person/group is inciting or wishing violence on people even though that may be the result of encouraging those people.

Well, there are a few major differences.

First off, he's referring to "second ammendment people", which is a group defined by gun ownership.  And he's not suggesting they protest.  He said "if Hillary gets her justices, there's nothing you can do."  There's nothing you can do implies that protesting isn't going to be effective.  Then he suggested that a "maybe" there's something that people identified by gun ownership could do "he doesn't know". 

If he meant protest, he could have said, protest.  Why the awkwardly vague phrasing of "maybe they could do something about it"?  And why did he immediately distance himself by saying "I don't know"?  He was being clear enough to get the message across but just ambiguous enough to deny it.

But, I might give him the benefit of the doubt if he doesn't have a history of this.  Hillary said something kind of sketchy (not as much so) about Obama 8 years ago.  When she was losing, she was asked about the outlook, and she pointed out how elections could change.  Among other examples, she mentioned the Bobbie Kennedy assassination. 

Now, that's definitely a really terrible way to phrase it.  But, considered in the context of what Hillary says, I'll give her the benefit of the doubt that it was just bad phrasing.  However, Drumpf has said lots of things specifically to incite anger or violence.  He recently said that Barack Obama "founded" ISIS.  When asked if he meant in a metaphorical manner, he insisted it was literal.  That's a dangerous thing for a candidate to say, not to mention obviously false.  He suggested the his supporters should "knock the crap out of" a protestor, and offered to pay the legal bills of anyone who did so. He encouraged Russia to hack into American servers.  He said of one of the Democratic speakers (presumably Bloomberg) " I was gonna hit one guy in particular, a very little guy, I was gonna hit this guy so hard his head would spin and he wouldn't know what the hell happened."  He said of a protestor in Nevada, "I'd like to punch him in the face".  He also said he could shoot someone on fifth a avenue and he wouldn't lose any support.

Again, if this was a one-off slip, I'd probably excuse it.  But it's part of a pattern of increasingly violent suggestions that would be very concerning to anyone, even if they weren't in the running for a position that comes with a nuclear arsenal.  At a certain point, we have to stop taking it as a joke.



outlawauron said:
SuaveSocialist said:

When the White House encouraged protests, it encouraged protests.  Trump encouraged gun-nuts to do a deliberately ambiguous something.

That's a dog whistle for assassination; this phenomenon isn't new (he's done it before, albeit for assault not murder) and people tend to answer the call sooner or later.  Either Trump knows what he's doing and incited violence or he doesn't know what he's doing and incited violence.

wat. He deliberately encouraged something ambigous? 

Really, I could turn your entire answer around and make it about the other side using the same logic.

Yes; it is in fact very easy to be ambiguous when encouraging something.  (You didn't think that was impossible, did you?  I mentioned that this tactic isn't new...) That tends to net a full spectrum of results--in this case, assassination being one of them and an obvious one at that.  The White House on the other hand was specific.  If you cannot tell the difference, I regret to inform you that it will be very unlikely to turn my answer around in a logical manner. 



Things that donal trump says:

“I have a great relationship with the blacks. I’ve always had a great relationship with the blacks.”


“Laziness is a trait in blacks.”


“According to Bill O’Reilly, 80% of all the shootings in New York City are blacks — if you add Hispanics, that figure goes to 98%, 1% white.”


“Black guys counting my money! I hate it. The only kind of people I want counting my money are little short guys that wear yarmulkes every day.”


“Our great African American President hasn’t exactly had a positive impact on the thugs who are so happily and openly destroying Baltimore!”


“You know, it really doesn’t matter what the media write as long as you’ve got a young, and beautiful, piece of ass.”


“I’ve said if Ivanka weren’t my daughter, perhaps I’d be dating her.”


“It’s freezing and snowing in New York – we need global warming!”


"The point is, you can never be too greedy."

"[Vladimir Putin} is not going into Ukraine, OK, just so you understand. He’s not gonna go into Ukraine, all right?
You can mark it down. You can put it down." –Donald Trump, apparently unaware that Russia had already annexed Crimea in a 2014 intrusion into Ukraine that left thousands dead (July 31, 2016)



"I wrote this out, and it's very close to my heart. Because I was down there and I watched our police and our firemen down at 7/11, down at the World Trade Center right after it came down. And I saw the greatest people I've ever seen in action." –Donald Trump, confusing 7/11 with 9/11, Buffalo, New York, April 18, 2016



"That was so great. Who was the person who did that? Put up your hand, put up your hand. Bring that person up here. I love that." –Donald Trump, praising two audience members who tackled a protester at his rally in South Carolina, Feb. 16, 2016 (encurageing his protestors to be violent)


"I could stand in the middle of Fifth Avenue and shoot somebody, and I wouldn't lose any voters, okay? It's, like, incredible." –Donald Trump, speaking at a rally in Sioux Center, Iowa as the audience laughed, January 23, 2016


"I don't think Ivanka would do that, although she does have a very nice figure. I've said if Ivanka weren't my daughter, perhaps I'd be dating her." –Donald Trump, when asked how he would react if Ivanka posed for Playboy


"Yeah, she's really something, and what a beauty, that one. If I weren't happily married and, ya know, her father . . . " –Donald Trump on his daughter Ivanka


"Women: You have to treat them like s--t." –Donald Trump


"Hillary wants to abolish, essentially abolish the Second Amendment," Trump said. "By the way, and if she gets to pick — if she gets to pick her judges, nothing you can do, folks. Although the Second Amendment people, maybe there is, I don’t know." "it would be a horrible day though" - Donald Trump

 

 

 

 

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Same suspects as usual accusing that he's the devil even though he's NEVER been persecuted for endangering other people's lives so it's not as if he needs a filter when he already has a few out there dishonestly smearing him ...



fatslob-:O said:
Same suspects as usual accusing that he's the devil even though he's NEVER been persecuted for endangering other people's lives so it's not as if he needs a filter when he already has a few out there dishonestly smearing him ..

Quoting someone is not a smear campaign, lying about someone is "Obama is the founder of ISIS" " I don't believe Obama was born in the US" if you say something enough the poorly educated will believe you"I love the poorly educated and they love me"



JustcallmeRiff said:

Quoting someone is not a smear campaign, lying about someone is "Obama is the founder of ISIS" " I don't believe Obama was born in the US" if you say something enough the poorly educated will believe you"I love the poorly educated and they love me"

I'm not here to defend Donald Trump's patently erroneous statements like these but I know enough is enough when you people are crossing the line of civility that not even the secret service that you guys were recently sucking up to actually made this an affair to be reckoned with ... 

You guys disappoint me since you advertised yourselves as "reasonable" but even you guys are blinded in your own anger enough to perpetuate falsehoods about or demonize Trump for the things he's not ... 

What makes you people better than Trump if you guys admonish him for the SAME things that YOU'RE GUILTY of, hypocrite much I say ? 

I only keep losing faith in human logic when I see more extremism especially from the supporters of the left ... 



 

His campaign is really looking awful right now. The cover of Time Magazine says it all: