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Forums - Gaming - Eurogamer: Nintendo NX is a portable console with detachable controllers (It also connects to your TV, and runs cartridges)

So this was posted back in May

"Participo de um grupo de forum no Japão que solta spoilrs de dragon ball super , mas os brasileiros no Japão acabaram de soltar algo do Nintendo NX que se for verdade pode interessar muitas pessoas.

De fato o console será híbrido ! Porém com uma coisa especial ! A tela lcd poderá ser desacoplada do console que é meio que um transformes kkkkkk isso mesmo. O console é uma caixa pequena e fina que tem conexões de tela lcd portátil , bateria extensor essas mesmos que acoplam no celular com case é até possibilidade de personalizar os controles.

Um híbrido mesmo que será meio transformes. Veio compartilhar aqui pois ninguém comentou sobre isso.

Infelizmente não tenho uma foto mais o console é do estilo desse
https://encrypted-tbn0.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:ANd9GcShkl21zbYSnzycAnmqLQoe5w8TjVO-JyOKm3mmcdoUA2P6wbb4vvjzHNVh
Mas tudo numa caixa com conexões bem organizadas é fácil de encaixar.

Em breve vai soltar mais detalhes desse rumor. So estou adiantando. Chip utilizado será tegra N1 mais potente que o x1 da nvidia.


Preco do console proposto será $300 o lcd será vendido por $100 a $200 dependendo do tamanho e resolução. E controles extras para acoplar de forma portátil $50 .

Ele terá entrada para cartuchos para poder dar mais funcionalidades de conexões futuras e consumir menos energia onde aumentará a capacidade de armazenamento.

Ou seu vc comprarar o console com pouca memória e esta será aumentada no cartucho de acordo com a necessidade do jogo, bem a moda antiga mesmo do estilo jogos com chip fx do snes.

De fato é algo bem novo mesmo .... Por isso a Microsoft estaria falando em console com upgrades , mas não de gpu e cpu e sim de acessórios mesmo.

Fiquei feliz com esse rumor espero que gostem. E fonte ??? Vc verá daqui a 2 meses quando for autorizado a soltar. Infelizmente não posso confirmar esse rumor devido a ser algo conseguido de forma não legal."

http://forum.jogos.uol.com.br/rumor-bombastico-do-nintendo-nx--lcd-expansao-_t_3784407?page=1

Pretty much everything Eurogamer said plus more. Since the Eurogamer article is in two parts, I'm guessing the other part will have the rest of this info.

Ah someone can translate if they want to. It does say it's going to use a newer chip and not the X1, there's some stuff about add-ons and SNES FX chip style stuff, but I dunno.

Also things are still lining up with that Reddit leaker guy, apart from how powerful it is.



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Oh and he said this later;

"All can I say that the chip is not the tegra x1 but his successor and that is modular which can increase your graphics capabilities through modules in cartridges"



RolStoppable said:
TheSpindler said:
So this was posted back in May

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Pretty much everything Eurogamer said plus more. Since the Eurogamer article is in two parts, I'm guessing the other part will have the rest of this info.

Ah someone can translate if they want to. It does say it's going to use a newer chip and not the X1, there's some stuff about add-ons and SNES FX chip style stuff, but I dunno.

Also things are still lining up with that Reddit leaker guy, apart from how powerful it is.

I see. So this isn't even a new rumor, but rather one that got sorted out back in May, because gaming sites believed other rumors at the time to be more credible.

Well this guys said he got it from a Japanese guy who said he would release the info two months later.  I think some of their info is correct, but how much I'm not sure.  I think the device itself has probably far more to it than what people currently belive now and that its gimmick is simply a screen controller you can carry as a handheld with a dock.

LCGeek mentioned that the networking Nintendo has been working on, the streaming tech stuff, has been expanded upon.  It could be that's the reason the controller is detachable.  Maybe the 'dock' device can stream to multiple devices, maybe there are multiple SKUs about with different screens, maybe they can stream to normal tablets or phones?  No idea really.

But it could be why Nintendo was afraid of it being copied.  



Well the detachable controllers feature will be good if you connect it to the TV but now I wonder how powerful the system will be. If it's a handheld it can't possible be stronger than the PS4.



TheSpindler said:

Well this guys said he got it from a Japanese guy who said he would release the info two months later.  I think some of their info is correct, but how much I'm not sure.  I think the device itself has probably far more to it than what people currently belive now and that its gimmick is simply a screen controller you can carry as a handheld with a dock.

LCGeek mentioned that the networking Nintendo has been working on, the streaming tech stuff, has been expanded upon.  It could be that's the reason the controller is detachable.  Maybe the 'dock' device can stream to multiple devices, maybe there are multiple SKUs about with different screens, maybe they can stream to normal tablets or phones?  No idea really.

But it could be why Nintendo was afraid of it being copied.  

Makes more sense than what this rumour is peddling tbh and it falls more in line with some of the patents especially the one that mentions devices of different specs communicating.

A screen controller that is also a stand alone handheld is plausible afterall the 3DS can be used as a controller for Smash just fine.



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Soundwave said:

If it can sell 15-20 million in Japan, it will get a ton of Japanese support and all Nintendo support concentrated on one platform plus probably Android apps and lots of indie games.

That's enough software support.

Nintendo is never going to win with the Western "dudebros" crowd, they are set with Sony or Microsoft and that's that, the only way they would get this audience's attention is with an 8 TFLOP machine, which would be the size of a PC and a power brick the size of the Wii U console with a $600 price point. 

They'd have to go to ridiculous extremes, they are not getting the GTA/Calladooty crowd, too late for that, the GameCube era basically decided that. Once MS decided they had nothing better to do than to waddle into another industry and just basically take up space like a fat soccer mom in an elevator, there wasn't room left for Nintendo to engage that same market. 

Nintendo maaaaybe had a window of oppurtunity if it was just the PS4 and XB1, but now with Neo/Scorpio clogging up the market, nope. This direction will work better for them at least this is something different and it can dominate the Japanese market and do OK in the West/Europe. 

The 3DS sold 20 mil in Japan and look at its support from 3rd parties.  Ok at best at most times in Japan.  And many never come west.  And those that do don't sell cause Japanese devs of many of these are so unambitious and/or atrocious at selling their products in the west.  And don't put so much weight on DQXI, it could 1) be the 3DS version that few care about anymore and 2) one game means precisely dick for long term support.

And extensive 3rd party support increases perceived value, which is very important.  When a platform misses out on hundreds of games, the immediate reaction of the general guy is that the system must have something wrong with it and is a bad value.  That's very hard to combat, the N64 frankly represents the absolute highest you can get in those curcumstances.

Also, merging their handheld and console development won't give you a library the size of Wii U plus 3DS, the 3DS output is based on significantly lower dev time and costs.  With a hybrid that's out the window.  So you are looking I would say at a library increase of 35 to 50%.   NOT 100%+ increase.

As for the rest of your post, your perception of this market is FAR too rigid.  Nintendo has the guns to beat MS, they just need to 1) get their head out of the sand and realize they ARE in competition with PS and Xbox so long as they go for the living room (no matter how many times they say they aren't, the reality shown in EVERY GEN but one is that they must and will comlete), 2) balance their output to make sure their core titles and family-friendly/clasic/whateveryouwanttocallthem titles are well mingled, and most importantly 3) market worth a crap.  Mark my words, fhe NX could be an 8 tflop machine at 299 and if their marketing is like the Wii U it would still be a huge sales disappointment.  Maybe N64 levels if they were very lucky.  The average consumer is NOT INFORMED ON THIS.  The PS4 doesn't sell cause of all the power, it sells cause 1) they didn't actively piss off their fanbase like MS and 2) their marketing and focus has been exceptionally well dorected at their fanbase and target demographics and 3) they have and emphasize their exceptiojal 3rd party support.  Just look at the PS2 to see more proof: it was the weakest of the three major platforms that gen and noticeably so, yet sold more by a HUGE margin because of those very things I listed.



Hynad said:
V-r0cK said:

Portable device that hooks up to TV like these guys?



I am down if that's true.  Been looking for a new handheld device as well and Nintendo never disappoints in that department.

It won't be like that. Whatever the NX ends up being will be the first time it has ever been done. Nintendo doesn't take ideas from the other hardware makers.

PSP had a similar idea, but it lacked the home console aspect.

It only used about half the screen for PSP games, it didnt support multiplayer on a single device, wired only, and it didnt come until later models of PSP.

Hence, very different than a device designed for use as a home console.



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dreamcast210 said:
Merging console and handheld is a good business decision. The hardware idea is nice. I'm sure they'll sell at a profit out of the gate.

But I have to wonder how this will impact actual games and third parties. Won't this hand-tie them when making games? Why cartridge based? I mean, really, why? Because it keeps hardware costs lower without any internal storage? Won't that ultimately make the cartridges more expensive? And instead of downloading multiple games to the device, you have to swap cartridges. Are we still living in the 90's?

This is a definite risk by Nintendo. But they've never really cared about third party support anyway. We'll see how it all plays out....

Going download only is certainly a bigger risk. Discs are completely out of the question for a handheld device and so the only physical medium viable is cartridges, which are superior in many ways anyway. There will definitely be potential to go fully digital but we don't have enough details yet regarding internal storage space/ external card compatibility etc.



method114 said:
Well the detachable controllers feature will be good if you connect it to the TV but now I wonder how powerful the system will be. If it's a handheld it can't possible be stronger than the PS4.

If it has the Tegra X1 chip as suspected, its a lot less powerful than X1/PS4 but a lot more powerful than 7th gen machines.

Which is fine for stuff people generally want on Nintendo machines.



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TheSpindler said:
Oh and he said this later;

"All can I say that the chip is not the tegra x1 but his successor and that is modular which can increase your graphics capabilities through modules in cartridges"

This sounds amazing! 

Whats being said here? 

 "Preco do console proposto será $300 o lcd será vendido por $100 a $200 dependendo do tamanho e resolução. E controles extras para acoplar de forma portátil $50" 

A quick google translates eludes to the higher end  screens being sold seperately or something?