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Forums - Nintendo - Opinion? Prediction?: Nintendo are going mobile and/or multi platform.

 

Nintendo should...

Go multiplatform. All in. 124 29.25%
 
Just mobile. 32 7.55%
 
Just ps4. 13 3.07%
 
Just PC 6 1.42%
 
Just X1. 9 2.12%
 
None of the above. Stay exclusive. 226 53.30%
 
Yes. But hold exclusivity... 7 1.65%
 
Other in comments 7 1.65%
 
Total:424
Neodegenerate on 19 July 2016
Veknoid_Outcast said:
John2290 said:
Why is no one accept the fact that Nintendo's Image is ruined after the "Causal wii" and the Wii U which the controllr looks worse than a 50 quid tablet for childern. People see it as the kiddy option and/or casual. They have the portables are their best asset, but even that will start dying as (Which it slowly is) because of the smart phone revolution. Only Nintendo's hardcore fans and kids/parents of kids and Japanese folk will grab the NX. And if The NX fails their done with consoles. They need to forge some relationship with the other big 3 or team up with apple, Google or facebook before the NX is released as a safety cushion. Ya'll seem like ya'll would rather Nintendo to die instead of going multiplat. If I can't have you can't either

How did the "casual" Wii ruin Nintendo's image? It opened up the beauty and joy of video games for millions who were either lapsed players or brand new ones. Maybe its success offended self-described hardcore players, who are historically inflexible and parochial. And maybe that's what all this is about, in this thread and elsewhere. Some folks are so threatened and insecure about the success of a modestly-powered system with a silly motion controller that blew past the "hardcore" competition. I guess the WiiU's relative failure was celebrated as Nintendo's comeuppance for daring to disrupt the industry and invite in so many filthy casuals, kids, parents, and grandparents. I guess for some gaming is just an exclusive club full of the hardest of hardcore who wouldn't be caught dead waggling a plastic remote at a bunch of cartoon mascots.

And don't forget about not wanting touch controls and mobile gaming without a dedicated device as well.

The hardcore, as the stereotype, will be the result of any industry dying out.  I am a huge comic book and video game nerd.  Love them both dearly.  However, generally speaking, the most toxic portions of the fanbase for both are the most loyal.  In comics to do anything new to attempt to get new readers is "selling out" and "pandering" and "not worth reading" and thus doesn't sell well enough to continue.  As a result, with few exceptions, the market has shrunk annually in the past 20 years.  Video games these days are showing the same signs.  Motion controls?  For casuals, don't buy Wii or Kinect!  Mobile gaming?  For noobs!  I would never buy a mobile game!

Sad really.



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Pavolink on 19 July 2016
John2290 said:
Why is no one accept the fact that Nintendo's Image is ruined after the "Causal wii" and the Wii U which the controllr looks worse than a 50 quid tablet for childern. People see it as the kiddy option and/or casual. They have the portables are their best asset, but even that will start dying as (Which it slowly is) because of the smart phone revolution. Only Nintendo's hardcore fans and kids/parents of kids and Japanese folk will grab the NX. And if The NX fails their done with consoles. They need to forge some relationship with the other big 3 or team up with apple, Google or facebook before the NX is released as a safety cushion. Ya'll seem like ya'll would rather Nintendo to die instead of going multiplat. If I can't have you can't either

Nintendo's kiddy image has been since the Sega days (and you can see which one ended leaving the hardware race).

 

On top of that, the casual Wii image is what helped them to sell in the first place so much consoles last gen. Partnering with Facebook, Apple or Google will reinforce that casual image or make it more mainstream (which is their goal).

 

Going with the other 3 (Sony, MS and...?) won't help any bit as the image you pointed won't change. Going PC&Mobile is their best choice as people won't have to spend a lot to enjoy Nintendo offerings.



Proud to be the first cool Nintendo fan ever

Number ONE Zelda fan in the Universe

DKCTF didn't move consoles

Prediction: No Zelda HD for Wii U, quietly moved to the succesor

Predictions for Nintendo NX and Mobile


Pavolink on 19 July 2016
CaptainExplosion said:
Pavolink said:

Nintendo's kiddy image has been since the Sega days (and you can see which one ended leaving the hardware race).

 

On top of that, the casual Wii image is what helped them to sell in the first place so much consoles last gen. Partnering with Facebook, Apple or Google will reinforce that casual image or make it more mainstream (which is their goal).

 

Going with the other 3 (Sony, MS and...?) won't help any bit as the image you pointed won't change. Going PC&Mobile is their best choice as people won't have to spend a lot to enjoy Nintendo offerings.

Still a terrible idea, because they'd be making less money, and last I checked Nintendo would want customers to spend MORE money on their products. It's an obvious reason they announced the NES Mini.

If they had to go third party, PC&Mobile will be their best course of action. No reason right now to go, but in case they must have to do for whatever reason.



Proud to be the first cool Nintendo fan ever

Number ONE Zelda fan in the Universe

DKCTF didn't move consoles

Prediction: No Zelda HD for Wii U, quietly moved to the succesor

Predictions for Nintendo NX and Mobile


Pavolink on 19 July 2016
CaptainExplosion said:
Pavolink said:

If they had to go third party, PC&Mobile will be their best course of action. No reason right now to go, but in case they must have to do for whatever reason.

If you want their future games at that point to be dumbed down then sure.

They have to dumb down their games on PC? Why?



Proud to be the first cool Nintendo fan ever

Number ONE Zelda fan in the Universe

DKCTF didn't move consoles

Prediction: No Zelda HD for Wii U, quietly moved to the succesor

Predictions for Nintendo NX and Mobile


GOWTLOZ on 19 July 2016
Pavolink said:
CaptainExplosion said:

Still a terrible idea, because they'd be making less money, and last I checked Nintendo would want customers to spend MORE money on their products. It's an obvious reason they announced the NES Mini.

If they had to go third party, PC&Mobile will be their best course of action. No reason right now to go, but in case they must have to do for whatever reason.

If they make AAA games on PC there is no reason why they shouldn't make them on consoles.



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Pavolink on 19 July 2016
CaptainExplosion said:
Pavolink said:

They have to dumb down their games on PC? Why?

I meant for mobile. Look at Pokemon Go. Yes it's popular and very successful, but it's a watered down version of basic Pokemon formula.

The only way I see the likes or Mario or Zelda making it on mobile is as endless runners, freemium MMOs or Bejeweled clones. That's what's mostly on the app store and Google Play. -_-

PC isn't such a hot idea either, considering the shitload of money that has to be put into WORKING gaming PCs, and because every PC gamer I see comes off as an entitled little shit with a superiority complex.

And I was talking about PC&Mobile...

Anyway, Nintendo is already taking a lot of time to release games, so releasing on PC wouldn't be different. On top of that, they don't need a lot money and power to make good looking games, thus nobody will need a high end PC to be able to run.

 

GOWTLOZ said:
Pavolink said:

If they had to go third party, PC&Mobile will be their best course of action. No reason right now to go, but in case they must have to do for whatever reason.

If they make AAA games on PC there is no reason why they shouldn't make them on consoles.

Price entry barrier and time.



Proud to be the first cool Nintendo fan ever

Number ONE Zelda fan in the Universe

DKCTF didn't move consoles

Prediction: No Zelda HD for Wii U, quietly moved to the succesor

Predictions for Nintendo NX and Mobile


GOWTLOZ on 19 July 2016
Pavolink said:
GOWTLOZ said:

If they make AAA games on PC there is no reason why they shouldn't make them on consoles.

Price entry barrier and time.

It makes sense due to the price of porting which isn't very high compared to how much more revenue they will earn and being able to reach a larger segment of the market.



Pavolink on 19 July 2016
GOWTLOZ said:
Pavolink said:

Price entry barrier and time.

It makes sense due to the price of porting which isn't very high compared to how much more revenue they will earn and being able to reach a larger segment of the market.

They are porting BotW from Wii U to NX and had to delay the game. Imagine porting a PC game to other consoles.

 

That will rise the cost as the time in development will be more. Nintendo is a lot more conservative and skyrocket budgets is not their priority. On top of that, existing PC are a lot more than consoles and they would have reached a lot of people already combining with the mobile part.



Proud to be the first cool Nintendo fan ever

Number ONE Zelda fan in the Universe

DKCTF didn't move consoles

Prediction: No Zelda HD for Wii U, quietly moved to the succesor

Predictions for Nintendo NX and Mobile


GOWTLOZ on 19 July 2016
Pavolink said:
GOWTLOZ said:

It makes sense due to the price of porting which isn't very high compared to how much more revenue they will earn and being able to reach a larger segment of the market.

They are porting BotW from Wii U to NX and had to delay the game. Imagine porting a PC game to other consoles.

 

That will rise the cost as the time in development will be more. Nintendo is a lot more conservative and skyrocket budgets is not their priority. On top of that, existing PC are a lot more than consoles and they would have reached a lot of people already combining with the mobile part.

Their mobile games will not be the same as their pC games. So talking about their PC games, PC gamers have very different buying habits than console gamers. Console gamers are willing to buy many more games at full price than PC gamers and piracy is an issue on PC and less of an issue on consoles.

PC gamers are more in number than console gamers but many of them don't have modern specs and they buy most games when they are on sale which are not CS, GTA, Battlefield and a few big franchises.

Making a AAA game on PC might actually take longer due to optimising it for a wide range of configurations than doing that for a few configurations on consoles.



lionpetercarmoo on 19 July 2016
sethnintendo said:
thatguymarco said:

It'd be rad. No more shitty gimmicky consoles and everyone gets to play their games. Everyone wins except Nintendo, but it's not like they're used to winning anyway.

How about winning gen 1, 3, 4, and 7 in home console sales?  If you add 3DS + Wii U together they are on top this gen as well (which it looks like the PS4 will eventually pass them by in total sales in a year or so).  They are almost always on top if you add home console and hand held sales together (except gen 5, 6 and soon to be 8).

Winning gen 1, 3, 4, and 7 in home console sales

Winning gen 2, 4, 5, 6, 7, and 8 in hand held sales (no one to my knowledge had a gen 3 hand held unless you want to count the Tiger Electronics hand helds which wiki doesn't, Nintendo has never lost in sales for any hand held generation)

Yep, they aren't used to winning.  You might want to have some facts next time.

LOL it ain't about sales it's about Quality.