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Are they?

No, only Nintendo with Pokemon. 328 78.47%
 
Yes, Sony with __________. 61 14.59%
 
Yes, Microsoft with____________. 29 6.94%
 
Total:418

Nope, Pokemon is just a huge brand (far bigger than anything Sony or MS have)

Edit: forgot about Minecraft, answer is still no though. 



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NobleTeam360 said:

Nope, Pokemon is just a huge brand (far bigger than anything Sony or MS have)

Edit: forgot about Minecraft, answer is still no though. 

Branding as in merchandise outside of gaming. Pokemon as a game is not very big and has declined over the years. Pokemon Go being a free mobile game and a success has zero to do with the brand's popularity as people who never played it are playing it because it's free and accessible. People don't seem to understand that.



AlBunz said:
NobleTeam360 said:

Nope, Pokemon is just a huge brand (far bigger than anything Sony or MS have)

Edit: forgot about Minecraft, answer is still no though. 

Branding as in merchandise outside of gaming. Pokemon as a game is not very big and has declined over the years. Pokemon Go being a free mobile game and a success has zero to do with the brand's popularity as people who never played it are playing it because it's free and accessible. People don't seem to understand that.

Brand was probably a bad word, I mean purely from a gaming stand point. Also I beg to differ on Pokemon as a game not being very big as a gaming franchise. 



NobleTeam360 said:
AlBunz said:

Branding as in merchandise outside of gaming. Pokemon as a game is not very big and has declined over the years. Pokemon Go being a free mobile game and a success has zero to do with the brand's popularity as people who never played it are playing it because it's free and accessible. People don't seem to understand that.

Brand was probably a bad word, I mean purely from a gaming stand point. Also I beg to differ on Pokemon as a game not being very big as a gaming franchise. 

We you add up the sales of all the rehashed Pokemon games. Yes. Pokemon is a successful gaming franchise but not big outside of it's core demographic. It does not sell well on Nintendo's home consoles. Add the fact most games in the series are bundled. Really it's a smoke screen that Nintendo has used for years. A well cracted smoke screen but a smoke screen none the less. Interesting to note is that nothing that advances gaming will come from this and this will further take Nintendo down the mediocre road that they have been on since the Wii.



AlBunz said:
NobleTeam360 said:

Brand was probably a bad word, I mean purely from a gaming stand point. Also I beg to differ on Pokemon as a game not being very big as a gaming franchise. 

We you add up the sales of all the rehashed Pokemon games. Yes. Pokemon is a successful gaming franchise but not big outside of it's core demographic. It does not sell well on Nintendo's home consoles. Add the fact most games in the series are bundled. Really it's a smoke screen that Nintendo has used for years. A well cracted smoke screen but a smoke screen none the less. Interesting to note is that nothing that advances gaming will come from this and this will further take Nintendo down the mediocre road that they have been on since the Wii.

I mean you could literally say that about any  franchise. Pokemon has always been mostly a handheld game. UC games are heavily bundled, but that doesn't take away the fact they they still sell well on their own (like Pokemon games do). Idk if this will advance gaming or not, but it's good news for Nintendo and is a nice break form endless NX speculation.



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Microsoft already has Mineraft, so...



Made a bet with LipeJJ and HylianYoshi that the XB1 will reach 30 million before Wii U reaches 15 million. Loser has to get avatar picked by winner for 6 months (or if I lose, either 6 months avatar control for both Lipe and Hylian, or my patrick avatar comes back forever).

Neodegenerate said:
Aeolus451 said:

I disagree with every bit of that. A movie or book or show for example could be cultural phenomenon. It only needs to have widespread popularity to really fit the definition of it. I'm not debating like the other guy which IP is a bigger cultural phenomenon but GTA is definitely a cultural phenomenon. Gaming is popular worldwide and GTA is one of the most popular IPs in gaming. An entire genre was born just to mimic it. I've seen news reports about how a cop learned a car chase move to knock a getaway car off the road from a gta game. Most americans know of that game series and most people in any country where gaming is a popular know of GTA. 

And the fact that you have a pre-requisite like this shows that it isn't a cultural phenomenon.

Superman, was a cultural phenomenon.  He transcended comic books and became a symbol known by virtually everyone on the planet regardless of where they lived or how they consumed entertainment.

Pokemon Go, even if you don't have a smartphone, even if you have NEVER owned a video game system, is something that you have most likely heard of at length in the past week.  That is a cultural phenomenon.

GTA is mostly known outside of video game circles as that game with prostitutes and cursing that those kids play on those console things.  That's all.  It's a 24 hour news cycle item when it comes out because of minor controversy.  That is not a cultural phenomenon.

Also, your whole spawning a genre argument means that something like League of Legends or whatever the first MOBA was is a cultural phenomenon, which again, it isn't.

You can believe whatever you want but GTA is considered a cultural phenomenon by many gaming and business sites/mags/news because it's level of success in the gaming market. What it's done is unprecedented in the gaming market.

I have no intention to convince you or change your mind because your opinion in and of itself is irrelevant to it being considered a cultural phenomenon when relevant sources do. 

http://finance.yahoo.com/news/grand-theft-auto-v-sales-183043997.html;_ylt=AwrBT8_CXolXyikAWvJXNyoA;_ylu=X3oDMTEzMjJzb28wBGNvbG8DYmYxBHBvcwMxMAR2dGlkA0IyMjQ3XzEEc2VjA3Ny

http://kotaku.com/why-rockstar-released-gta-v-for-current-gen-consoles-1356077733



barneystinson69 said:

Microsoft already has Mineraft, so...

Yeah. But Minecraft isn't as recognizable as Pokemon. Almost EVERYONE knows Pokemon.



I bet the Wii U would sell more than 15M LTD by the end of 2015. He bet it would sell less. I lost.

SpokenTruth said:
ohmylanta1003 said:

Yeah. But Minecraft isn't as recognizable as Pokemon. Almost EVERYONE knows Pokemon.

And Minecraft is already on phones.  Did that reach the same popularity as this?  Not even close.  So not even Minecraft has done it.

Yeah. I'm beyond confused by some of the responses here. Some people here must live in their own little world to not realize how much bigger Pokemon is than any other IP they've named. We aren't just talking about game sales people. You're missing the big picture.



I bet the Wii U would sell more than 15M LTD by the end of 2015. He bet it would sell less. I lost.

SpokenTruth said:
Aeolus451 said:

You can believe whatever you want but GTA is considered a cultural phenomenon by many gaming and business sites/mags/news because it's level of success in the gaming market. What it's done is unprecedented in the gaming market.

I have no intention to convince you or change your mind because your opinion in and of itself is irrelevant to it being considered a cultural phenomenon when relevant sources do. 

http://finance.yahoo.com/news/grand-theft-auto-v-sales-183043997.html;_ylt=AwrBT8_CXolXyikAWvJXNyoA;_ylu=X3oDMTEzMjJzb28wBGNvbG8DYmYxBHBvcwMxMAR2dGlkA0IyMjQ3XzEEc2VjA3Ny

http://kotaku.com/why-rockstar-released-gta-v-for-current-gen-consoles-1356077733

Tell me again how well the GTA games are doing on iOS and Android again? 

You're mistaken. I'm not saying anything remotely close to GTA should be on mobile or would do well on mobile device. I'm simply saying that GTA is certainly a cultural phenomenon. That's it. I don't care about the dick measuring contest between pokemon and GTA.