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kurasakiichimaru said:
vivster said:
That was really badly handled. He should've just admitted his mistake and said that he should've put the disclaimer in the video. This condescending response claiming no responsibility is is just sad.

What mistake? 2 years ago, there were no guidelines for that.

Are you going to tell me I have to admit that I made a mistake for example, I wore casual clothes three days ago for a casual event then wear formal clothes to a formal event in the same venue?

 

SWORDF1SH said:
vivster said:
That was really badly handled. He should've just admitted his mistake and said that he should've put the disclaimer in the video. This condescending response claiming no responsibility is is just sad.

But the thing is, he hasn't done anything wrong. The FTC say it's Warner Bros in the wrong and not the Youtubers. Even the Youtubers that didn't mention it being a promotion at all, did nothing wrong. It just the media twisting the facts again.

Ethical mistake. The fact that he sees no wrongdoing is just sad. There were no laws against slavery at the time as well. Gonna defend that as well?



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vivster said:

Ethical mistake. The fact that he sees no wrongdoing is just sad. You know a few hundred years ago there were no laws against slavery. There were no laws against slavery at the time as well. Gonna defend that as well?

It was a paid for entertainment video not featuring any critique, he disclosed that it was a paid for video. What's the problem. 

Bringing up slavery in something as trivial as this?



Barkley said:
vivster said:

Ethical mistake. The fact that he sees no wrongdoing is just sad. You know a few hundred years ago there were no laws against slavery. There were no laws against slavery at the time as well. Gonna defend that as well?

It was a paid for entertainment video not featuring any critique, he disclosed that it was a paid for video. What's the problem. 

Bringing up slavery in something as trivial as this?

The fact that people see this as trivial is the whole problem. That's why it took for the FTC so long to even have guidelines.



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Not even a fan of Pewdiepie, I think he is really annoying. But he did no wrong here.



Veknoid_Outcast said:

If people want to treat his videos as entertainment, then great. But in light of this controversy, I don't think anyone should take his recommendations seriously. 

The whole thing is just slimy.

That's a little dramatic don't ya think?

He always follows guidlines from what I can tell and since the 2015 guidlines he always mentions if they are paid promotions in his vids.

But I do get why people think it's a little shady but what we should also comment on how he handled the paid promotion and to me he kept his credibility.



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vivster said:
kurasakiichimaru said:

What mistake? 2 years ago, there were no guidelines for that.

Are you going to tell me I have to admit that I made a mistake for example, I wore casual clothes three days ago for a casual event then wear formal clothes to a formal event in the same venue?

 

SWORDF1SH said:

But the thing is, he hasn't done anything wrong. The FTC say it's Warner Bros in the wrong and not the Youtubers. Even the Youtubers that didn't mention it being a promotion at all, did nothing wrong. It just the media twisting the facts again.

Ethical mistake. The fact that he sees no wrongdoing is just sad. There were no laws against slavery at the time as well. Gonna defend that as well?

He is not a journalist and whatever he did doesn't even remotely scream ethically nor even politically incorrect as slavery.



I think it's sad that these infantile social rejects are in a position to "influence" and get paid for it.

It's madness that on top of ads, marketing deals, merchandise and donations that the fucking publishers themselves feel the need to give them more money. Males sick



vivster said:

The fact that people see this as trivial is the whole problem. That's why it took for the FTC so long to even have guidelines.

Explain what your massive problem with it is. Paying reviewers is horrific, paying a let's player especially when disclosed is not.



Barkley said:
Veknoid_Outcast said:

It might not have been different. The game in question is excellent.

But that's not the point. It doesn't matter if he expressed opinion A or opinion B. What matters is that those opinions could have been bought by WB. PewDiePie could have obscured any warts in the game because WB insisted upon their exclusion. 

If people want to treat his videos as entertainment, then great. But in light of this controversy, I don't think anyone should take his recommendations seriously. 

The whole thing is just slimy.

His old videos all state in the description if they are sponsored, his videos that are sponsored since the FTC guidelines for youtube were created are disclosed very clearly. It's very easy to know when he has or hasn't been paid for making a video.

Also his videos ARE entertainment, in no possible way could PewDiePie's videos be described as "critique".

But if they are entertainment, and his viewers accept them as entertainment, why would WB approach him in the first place? In this lawsuit PewDiePie and others are listed as social media "influencers." WB targetted PDP et al. because they have the power to influence an audience and impact sales.

Correct me if I'm wrong but the videos were not allowed to include negative opinions about the game or Warner Bros., or show any bugs and glitches. And they also needed to include "a strong verbal call-to-action to click the link in the description box for the viewer to go to the [game's] website to learn more about the [game], to learn how they can register, and to learn how to play the game." 

Wouldn't you call that something that falls outside "entertainment"?



Conclusion:

Pewdiepie DID get paid for this video.
But he disclosed it, it was for anyone to see ("but but nobody reads the description" is not an argument).
He didn't praise the game, he just said he had fun, which is barely an opinion. Just a fact.
He didn't say "I think it's pretty good" or "It's pretty good", or "everybody should play this great game". Just "I had fun".

He didn't even try to go in depth.

His name was used for clicks, and it worked.

And since people desperately seek a "reason" to say "See ? He's bad, we should hate him", because he's popular and they don't share his humor (which is by FAR his worst crime yet), they all jumped on the bandwagon.

Nothing else to see here, just another day on the internet: clickbait, misleading claims, and haters.

 

Also, why do everybody hate on the ONLY one who actually said it was a promoted video, and not the others ? That says a lot, truely.



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