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Azuren on 05 July 2016
Uabit said:
Ruler said:

Do you realize that you still would play console games on your PC via emulation? And isnt that what speaks for console gaming if you can play all your console  purchases with better performance on PC? So the entire power argument for PC Gaming becomes irrelvant 

This is what the Neo is for, you dont need a PC for that soon enough

By the time Neo and Scorpio come out new GPU and processors will be released (and will have been released) and those consoles will be mid-end hardware as much.

They already released the new stuff. It's called Pascal and Polaris.

 

And guess what the Neo and Scorpio are running?

 

Polaris-equivalent. 

 



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DonFerrari on 05 July 2016
Bandorr said:

It looks like "oy vey" which would be a yiddish phrase expressing dismay. Like "oh my".

Although urban dictionary does has a definite for that exact phrase "oi vei".

"Word of Jewish Descent meaning Oh God. Often used by girls looking for something new to say or by guys badly impersonating Jewish people, who actually talk exactly the same way as the rest of us."

So either of those.

Or in portuguese it would be a slang equivalent to "hello friend" with vei being velho (old) but in slang equivalent to the person you are talking to.

Azuren said:
Uabit said:

By the time Neo and Scorpio come out new GPU and processors will be released (and will have been released) and those consoles will be mid-end hardware as much.

They already released the new stuff. It's called Pascal and Polaris.

 

And guess what the Neo and Scorpio are running?

 

Polaris-equivalent. 

 

the more you know.



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S.T.A.G.E. on 05 July 2016
jardesonbarbosa said:
Another PC vs consoles thread. So original.

Given microsofts plans it was bound to happen.



LudicrousSpeed on 05 July 2016
S.T.A.G.E. said:
LudicrousSpeed said:
Don't forget, once Neo/Scorpio are out, its utterly pointless t buy/own PS4/Xbone.

The only reason Microsoft created the scorpio is because they caught wind that Sony was creating a more powerful PS4 for 4k. Microsoft had not been happy that Sony surprised them in the past, which forced them to quickly try and up their clock speed. For Microsoft its pretty much pointless, but for Sony they've solidified that they created the Neo for two reasons:

1) Deliver a 4k experience (Since they've been working on it)

2) An attempt to keep the few who want a high end gaming experience using their platform and not upgrading to PC (Which seems to be the case because of the rise of PC gaming sales).

Microsoft is being questioned by the media as to whether they believed to be sending (and I quote) "mixed messages" about Scorpios validity and the the fact that it might have just ruined the launch of the XBox S by making people save their money until 2017 for the scorpio.

As Eurogamer put it this E3 made it seem like Microsoft was using the Xbox as a "Trojan Horse" for Windows 10.

http://www.eurogamer.net/articles/2016-06-16-microsofts-mixed-messages-at-e3-arent-pretty-for-xbox-one-owners

Its being marketed as pro consumer, but its really pro Microsoft.

Forbes

http://www.forbes.com/sites/davidthier/2016/06/18/microsoft-wins-even-if-xbox-scorpio-loses/#6197c6312f7e

That’s Microsoft’s not-so-secret weapon in the gaming world. The Xbox One may be struggling against the PS4, but Microsoft remains one of the biggest tech companies out there and the owner of the most popular gaming platform on the planet. So if consoles take a hit on this gamble, PC is right there to take up the slack. Any increased traffic to Windows 10 is solid for Microsoft, even if it comes out of its own ecosystem.



DivinePaladin on 05 July 2016
Megaoverlord12 said:
DivinePaladin said:

That's the console/PC debate in a nutshell

Oi vei... Isn't video gaming supposed to be fun, no matter what you play it on?

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Dgc1808 on 05 July 2016

Yes, at the end of the day, if each of the big 3 had all their games on PC then their consoles become pointless to the vast majority of gamers. At the end of the day, it really comes down to exclusives. Now if all games were available on all platforms, I'm not so sure. Price-point/value and convenience would win and that could give the edge to the PS4 if you ask me.

I think the point is that PC = X1+ as all X1 games going forward are a subset of PC games but not all PC games are a subset of X1 games. If what you care about are games, then yea, a PC is better. There are still multimedia and convenience reasons to get an X1 (especially the X1s) but a lot of gamers just don't care about that stuff, and that's why people are reacting the way they are.



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alabtrosMyster on 05 July 2016

Honestly, as someone who does both PC and console gaming I'd say convenience (call me lazy) is a 100% valid reason to pick a console... that being said, a lot of multi-platform titles are only playable on a good gaming PC, I'd say this for all multi-platform released during the ps360 area that were on PC, the gap was just too big, even early on when you could have a 3D card that had 512MB of really fast memory (for the time) which is what either console had in total! 

and well PCs are just more flexible (emulation, HTPC functions, full forward and backward compatibility)... but even if this is easier than before, both to set them up and obtain software, they are still way more complex than a lot of people are willing to bare with just to play some game with improved graphics, while they are either tied to their desk or forced to have a keyboard lying around their living room...

The only acceptable console right now is the PS4.



tiffac on 05 July 2016

I game on both and MS just made me buy one less console and upgrade my PC. Win-win for multiplatformers lol!



Pemalite on 06 July 2016
Bandorr said:
DonFerrari said:

I think Perma point wasn't of being proud of doing it, just stating that doesn't matter if any of us like it, it will happen.

You could be accurate. There is no tone of facial expressions after all. Constantly talking about it being on the PC and it being "better" certaintly sounds like being proud/bragging about it.

Specially combined with the earlier comment of "I still have a ton of fun emulating some old games from the SNES/PSX era on my PC"

I actually own SNES, PS1, N64 games on their original formats, so from a legal perspective I'm not breaking any laws, nor are they demanding, allowing me to emulate them via my Android TV box so I can have a higher degree of fidelity and still retain a similar experience to the original.

With that said. I'm indifferent to it all. I don't really care if Emulation happens or not. Just that it's going to happen regardless of what any of us think.

DonFerrari said:
Bandorr said:

Yet I doubt anyone talking about "emulating" Uncharted 4 is going to run out and get the game. And since that came is exclusive to the console - the ps4 as well.

That is all kinds of piracy there. That people seem so proud of.

Legally, from what I know... emulating is piracy because it's reverse engineering the system to be duplicated and violating IP on the HW itself and them if you didn't buy the SW itself you are pirating again, but I may be wrong.

 

But I find funny when some guys expend 2000 USD or more on a rig and then pirate a game because they think it's too expensive (at least dirty cheap steam promotion isn't piracy, but I also find it an issue to only buy the games for peanuts and let the developers starve)


The legality of emulation will vary from territory to territory. But emulation itself is actually legal in most western countries.
It's when you start dumping BIOS's, downloading ROM's etc' that you enter into a grey area.

Swordmasterman said:

You mean via Emulation ? This isn't guaranteed since sometimes the emulator run the game worse than the original version.

That is actually a very good point.

With that said, issues like that usually get sorted out in time and as hardware continues to progress.




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Arkaign on 06 July 2016

I have my treasured PS1 OG with the RCA outputs and my PS2 fat still, but I play all of those games on PC despite having a BC PS3 available. Just pop in the disc and boom, good to go. It's the only way I can make them look right on a 16:9 HDTV anyway. Even running through the framemeister isn't as good as emulating them on my HTPC.