Chazore said:
Ruler said:
How has crowdfunding anything to do whith what i was saying? Or BC?
Ruler said:
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I completley agree with OP, sharing exclusives is only pro consumer on the surface but it really isnt if you look at the whole picture. This practice is slowly killing consoles and without them you wouldnt see all these exclusives being made in the first place. Nintendo and Sony wouldnt make all these games if it wouldnt be for spending 300-500$ on a new device for the consumer.
I remember a time where you had dozzens of consoles in the 90s, plus PC and home computer as well as the arcades. All these platforms had their own exclusives and as a result you had more games overall. Today pc and consoles share all the same games, and by far they all have a lot less games overall than previous Gens.
Instead of sharing exclusives how about that MS actually makes some new ones? Their press e3 conference really lacked new exclusive anouncments except for Forza which was excepted anyways
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Just because they use x86 doesnt make them PCs, or do you think Apple Macs are also PCs? How does that make sense?
Did you also called the Sega Megadrive a Homecomputer or PC?
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Besides those bolded parts, you made no mention at all of backwards compat, you mentioned exclusives and funding, having less games these days than in the past which is entirely false.
Second part: Yes it does, because they share the same space as a PC within the same architecture. The fact that console games need patches a lot including system absed ones as well as downloading said games, installing them and using other functions like the web broswer, media and music playback very much makes them more PC like today than they were like a plug and play console from the NES/SNES days. Back then all you had a console for was to play just games and only games, no media, no music, no movies, no browser, no patches or downloads, no nothing that a PC could and still does to this day. You can deny it all you want with every fiber of your being but consoles today are trying to become more PC like by the years that go by. Until consoles stop trying to emulate what a PC does on a gaming or general every day basis then they will still be trying to be that which they were not.
Sega megadrive was not a PC, it didn't do everything the PS4 does today (besides one single model version that tried to do Audio CD playback but we all know which version was the one that wasn't used as one).
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Depends on the games, my most recent game Star Ocean 5 didnt have any Patches, Atelier Sophie only a tiny patch to fix some Text in the trasnlation. Japanese games in genral are a lot less Patch heavy than Western counterparts i noticed, and so are Remasters and Indie games. Its these AAA games who go overboard and a lot of them are even server based in the first place. But then again i am not fan of these types of games and wont support them, same way i havent bought SFV.
Why shouldnt a console have extra features, the PS2 could also play DVDs? Do you realize that even BlueRay/DVD players can go to the webbowser? Every device can these day, i dont understand why you think doing more is a step in the wrong direction?
A console is still a console and does best what it was built for, gaming. While yes the PS4 does have a lot of things more reminisant of a PC it still gives you a way easier plug and play experience which PC gamers can only dream off.
- you can plug your disc and instantley install your games, no waiting for download.
- games ussually are installed in 1-2 minutes and you can start them while the rest is installed in the background (20 minutes) from the disc.
- Patches are downloaded and installed while you are even playing the game, you just need to restart the game in order make the patch effective.
- for digital games they are downloaded and installed at the same time. And you dont need the complete game in order to start it, like 10 GB of a 50GB is enough for many games even if it is just a Demo mode for some AAA games like NBA 2k2016.
- you can also just change the language of the game at any givene time to any language you want if it is on the disc or download. Even if the devoloper designed the game to be in the language of the system menu. Its very usefull for looking at item names in english to see in online guides etc. and even MS plans to implement it on Xbox One.
- you can copy and paste your save file when ever you want and for any game you want. Some grindy games like DoA3 its very usefull.
All these things isnt what i was used to when i was a PC gamer. While yes the downloads, installations and patches are mimicking PCs, the excuation is completley different on console or at least on PS4 it is as far as i know.
On the Wii U it is still reading the games from the Disc.