Because... you say so. Man you're pulling out all the terrible argumenting tricks!

Motion controls are the primary controls in games like Splatoon.

So you see the pointlessness of even bringing up popularity. It's like saying black and white movies are shit because not many are made any more.

It's not pointless. I think that you're missing the point.  We're talking about products which have everything to do with popularity because it typically equates to sales and consumers being happy with that product.  The reason why black and white movies aren't being made anymore is because it's irrelevant in today's market. No one wants new movies made in black and white. If black and white movies are actually bad or not in the sense you're talking about doesn't matter.  

Given that Justin Beiber and Twilight are popular, the link between quality and success is tenuous at best. :P

Well the Kinect was a technically superior but practically inferior product.  While it was more advanced than the Wii, it brought back problems the Wii solved, namely navigation of a 3D space. 

Motion Controls are contextually great, not generally useful though, that's why they have faded.  Consoles are intentionally "jack of all trades" proposals, intended to provide a good experience in nearly all genres.  Motion controls are master so a few specific things.  So a motion control based console or mandatory motion control peripheral doesn't make sense.  And optional peripherals just result in 3rd party developers not investing time and resources into games built for them. 

However, motion controls are finding a strong presence in the VR movement as their strengths and VR's strengths tend to be similar. 

They don't make many black and white movies these days, does that mean Citizen Kane and Casablanca weren't that good?

The player does not decide a game's primary control scheme, the developers do. You may not use the gyro in Splatoon, but the game is designed with that as the primary method.

You two are debating like cats and dogs.

terrible argument. those are good movies because they were good movies. Color or not. How much of those black and white movies were actually good? Now how much of those motion control heavy games actual good? Why else did would they stop making them far less than they were a few years ago?

Yet again you can't own up to your wrongdoing, just gonna ignore it thinking that'll make it go away, and once again you're gonna pretend that 99% of my post doesn't exist, but nope I ain't having that. You probably think it's not relevant to the discussion or something, but um yeah, your credibility and behavior are very relevant to any discussion. How can you have a legitimate discussion when you ignore practically everything the opposition has to say, you outright lie with no remorse, you argue against points the opposition never made, and you continually bring up points the opposition has already addressed? No one should take anyone who repeatedly does some of these things let alone all of them seriously.

Quality in the way you keep using it is utterly irrelevant in a discussion about products/services.  

"Given that Justin Beiber and Twilight are popular, the link between success and popularity of a product is apparent. "

Most of Nintendo's Wii U games use motion in their default (and hence primary) control scheme. Whether you like them or not or whether you think they're meaningful or the right way to play said game is really quite beside the point.

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That's the whole point.

Equating popularity to quality, as in argumentum ad populum, is a logical fallacy. Such a view would conclude that if the idea that the world is flat gained popularity, it would become true.

And you're talking to yourself again. Perhaps you don't know that to respond to a post requires more than simply quoting it, but that's too damn obvious for anyone to seriously not know. Thus I assume you're trying to bait me back into endlessly debating with you even at the cost of blatantly ignoring me and spouting the same debunked rhetoric. As I said, that behavior is not to be taken seriously, and I'm not going to waste time debating with someone who can't be taken seriously.

Ugh. You're like an answering machine. Again, my point is this alteration of your words, "Given that Justin Beiber and Twilight are popular, the link between success and popularity of a product is apparent." Maybe it might help you see the forest for the trees if I keep waving it front of ya.