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gooch_destroyer on 26 June 2016

Well, people will always find something else to worship.



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Pemalite on 26 June 2016
Jicale said:
There is a downside. Death. Currently we have no clue what happens when we die, so some people feel comfort in believing there is some sort of afterlife. A family loses their child, so the parents and loved ones feel comfort in believing that the child has gone to heaven. So without religion that belief is no longer there so it's, yeah sorry your kid died and all but now it's non existent.

Technically you don't turn into "nothing" when you die because that would defy the laws of physics. - I.E. At the atomic level, everything is energy, the laws of thermodynamics states that energy can neither be created nor destroyed only transferred or transformed.


Religion, typically religous "extremists" be it Christian, Islamic, whatever... Hold extremely high levels of "faith" in their religion that they are willing to throw all human achievements in science and technology away and believe in things like a young-earth theory, some even go as far as to proclaim that space travel should be abolished.
Religion does nothing except hold back the potential of the human race in it's most extreme cases, in the most ideal case it's a form of confort.




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Aielyn on 26 June 2016
Lawlight said:
StarOcean said:

This. Those who believe world issues and wars would not exist are kidding themselves. Humans would displace them upon different things

At least we wouldn't have fanatics trying to turn Australia into an islamic state.

Why separate out the Islamic fanatics?

Christensen, Bernardi, Fred Nile, and the like want to turn Australia into a theocracy, too.



archer9234 on 26 June 2016

We'd have more land available. Since churches would be less. And mainly become Wedding places etc. At the very least.



Qwark on 26 June 2016
StarOcean said:
Chromeo said:
I imagine it'd be exactly the same. People would wage wars in the names of other things in that case. It is built into our DNA.

This. Those who believe world issues and wars would not exist are kidding themselves. Humans would displace them upon different things

We would be more honest about our motives though, so that's a win. And we wouldn't have to deal with the stupid ideals of religion which anyone lacks to follow, especially considering the religion of peace.



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malistix1985 on 26 June 2016

Im pretty sure eventually nobody will believe in religion anymore its proven that well educated and prosperous people are way less likely to be religious, its more for the poor and those who have no real goals in live to find something to live for.




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Stefan.De.Machtige on 26 June 2016

It would make no difference at all. Most wars are banker wars anyway.



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GribbleGrunger on 26 June 2016

One can only hope.



 

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Dulfite on 26 June 2016
the-pi-guy said:
Razeak said:

Can you imagine a world without land? Resources? Opinions? It won't make a difference other than what they base their decision on. Hitler after all sought power and ethnic cleansing and wasn't really a practicing Christian. Hate was his downfall and it was rooted in racism and a lust for power. Was Chairman Mao a religious zealot? Stalin? Evil is a part of human nature regardless of whatever label is placed upon the reason for acting.

 

How about we imagine a world of free people and not totalitarian, socialist governments that took around 200+ million people off the face of the Earth in the 20th century. Religion had little if anything to do with those atrocities.

Socialism is not the issue, regardless of your definition of "socialism".  

Racism, and all the other issues can come out of people regardless of whether socialism is part of it or not.  

Dulfite said:
Nothing would exist without a creator, because something can't come from nothing. Believing God exists and created something is infinitely more plausible than nothing spontaneously producing something. So, if there was no religion, and therefore no God, then there wouldn't be an Earth to compare to this Earth, nullifying the question altogether.

Except God doesn't come from religion.  Religion comes from God.  

Even if I don't believe in you, that doesn't mean you cease to exist.  Suppose for whatever reason, that God didn't reveal himself to man, and we developed without knowing anything about God.  What would that world look like?

Well, that's an interesting question and perspective! I am a Christian and God has time and time again revealed HIMSELF to show HIS deep love for us, but I suppose if HE didn't do that, and we didn't know him at all, and therefore nobody had any kind of religion, that the world would be in chaos. What is the point to adhearing to any ethical or moral code if there is no life after death? If there are no eternal consequences, what is the point of anything?



Dulfite on 26 June 2016
AbbathTheGrim said:
Dulfite said:
Nothing would exist without a creator, because something can't come from nothing. Believing God exists and created something is infinitely more plausible than nothing spontaneously producing something. So, if there was no religion, and therefore no God, then there wouldn't be an Earth to compare to this Earth, nullifying the question altogether.

Then your god is created because it couldn't come out of nothing.

I figured someone would throw this out there. I don't agree with that (as I believe God always existed), but regardless it doesn't negate my point. Even with the confusion and incomprehensibleness of an eternal God, it still makes the creation of everything more of a sensible thing than it would have been had it come from nothing.