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GribbleGrunger on 22 June 2016
Intrinsic said:

Exactly, and sony hasn't even started yet. The biggest issue with the scorpio is actually its biggest strenght too. Its just too differemt from the OGXB1.

Now typically being more powerful can always be a good thing, but things really start to go bad the second you can plug in a rift or vive into the scorpio and play a gamewhich means the 20M+ people tjat supported the XB1 (probably 30M+ by the time the scorpio is released) are going to be left behind.

Then sony will just say, every PS4 is the same. Eveeything you can do on one you can do on the other. Only difference is that one supports 4k output and the other doesnt. So its simple, neo is PS4 but better. 

Absolutely. They already started at the conference with the statements about every PS4 could use PSVR. We knew that already so why mention it again? Chess moves.



 

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AnthonyW86 on 22 June 2016

It won't shorten it but i don't think it will lengthen it much iether, unless developers will do something like start using 720p for the PS4. The only thing that concerns me is that the PS4 Neo might only have a lifespan of about three until a possbile PS5 comes out.



Dr.Vita on 22 June 2016

Didn't expect anything different from Sony. Good news!




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Barkley on 22 June 2016
GribbleGrunger said:
"I was surprised [Microsoft announced Scorpio]," Yoshida said earlier in the interview. "I was not expecting them to talk about [it]. It's very very super interesting what they are doing."

Yoshida's comments echo those of Sony Interactive president Andrew House, who said last week that he was "surprised by the step of announcing something over a year ahead of time".

"The dynamics of the tech industry are such that there's a much heavier emphasis on immediate gratification than there was," he said. "A lot of that is to do with how Apple has very cleverly and elegantly managed the 'available now' approach. So yes, that was a slight surprise to me."

I didn't believe the rumours that said the Neo will still launch this year even after not showing up at e3. After Yoshida's comments here however I'm starting to think that maybe it will.



Victorian on 22 June 2016

It won't shorten PS4s life so does it mean they'll be sold simultaneously? Does it mean PS4 will have it's games while Neo has it's own games and PS4s? Maybe I don't understand what PS Neo really is?



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DakonBlackblade on 22 June 2016
GribbleGrunger said:
Intrinsic said:
Shorten? These iterative consoles are primed to do the exact opposite. They will make it longer. In another 3-4yrs there will be another PS4. Or PS5 or whatever.... rather than generational leaps, we are moving to preset leaps.

This statement is a chess move. The Scorpio is more powerful and as such could be seen as a new generation. By saying this now it puts the ball in Miscrosoft's court and forces them to consider how they approach the marketing carefully. They had more leeway before this statement and gave Sony the headache. This redresses the balance a little. As it stood, MS could change the messaging based on how things stood nearer to the launch. They could adjust it from 'iterative' to 'new cycle' and no one would have thought twice about it. By promising the Neo won't shorten the lifecycle, Sony have subliminally planted the idea that a shorter life cycle is a bad thing. Now it's more likely that MS will go with 'iterative' to avoid a possible backlash. Sony will be hoping that this will be discussed in the media to help cement the negatives of a shorter lifecycle.

I love this shit. I'm already starting to see Sony adjusting their messaging from power to games. They had both before but they know they won't have both come the release of the Scorpio.

A shorter Life Cycle is a bad thing. If MS launches the Scorpio as a new generation it kills it instantly, the 40M+ PS4 users (60M+ maybe by the time Scorpio launches) won't transition, the 20M+ Xbox owners (25-30M+ by the time the Scorpio launches maybe) will feel cheated as fck and most won't transition, 3rd party developers won't just ignore the massive PS4 + XOne userbase to develop for Scorpio exclusively. Sony doesn't need to plant anything and MS isn't insane.

Victorian said:
It won't shorten PS4s life so does it mean they'll be sold simultaneously? Does it mean PS4 will have it's games while Neo has it's own games and PS4s? Maybe I don't understand what PS Neo really is?

The Neo will be a more powerfulll PS4, there will be no exclusive games for it, every NEO game will also run on PS4, the only difference is the graphics on the Neo version will be better (wich most likely means Neo will run games at 4k resolution). Think about a budget PC x a top tier PC runing the same game, both machines run it, the owner of each one can have his fun, but the one with the high end PC runs the game smoother/better and at a higher resolution.



SWORDF1SH on 22 June 2016
GribbleGrunger said:
It's really odd how people react to the Neo. Everyone and their mother demands backwards compatibility and what we have here is the solution. Nothing changes except the fact that every game from now on is forwards and backwards compatible. That means you don't lose the use of your games as you upgrade and if you can't afford the more expensive consoles (iterations or full cycle) you can opt for the cheapest and still play all the games. The Neo is exactly what people were asking for but they didn't realise it.

Good point. It also fixes a complaint that people make about spec quickly becoming outdated. Sony, and MS with Scorpio, are just giving us what we want.



aLkaLiNE on 22 June 2016

These mid gen consoles coupled with the pairing of VAR never were supposed to shorten this generation, they were meant to help extend and maintain hardware sales, in much the same way that PS Move and Kinect did - the difference here is that VR seems much more substantial than anything in the past and this is the first time we've had noticeable bumps in power under the same branding.

And yes. Sony has played this game of Chess impeccably this time around. They're orchestrating everything well.



CosmicSex on 22 June 2016

This one is easy: As long as both units receive support, the Neo will only extend the gen.



vivster on 22 June 2016

Of course not. It was short to begin with.



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