They won't reach 4k but for indie games anyway lol. Other games will be upscaled 4k just like ps3 and 360 upscaled games to 1080 (while most of them run at 720p or lower) and well PS4 and X1 themselves are jokes too, games like Battlefront at 900p/720p.

4K tv adoption is doing fine. However the percentage of people that buy a big enough 4K tv, sit close enough, or one with full HDR is still much lower.

When I hear claims about how much better 4K netflix or you tube looks, I wonder how much better that would look on a 1080p tv as well. Ofcourse the content looks much better, 7 mbps 1080p, vs 15 to 18 mbps at twice the efficient coded, almost 5 times increase in bandwidth. When I watch a blu-ray after watching Netflix it also looks awesome again, much sharper, better colors etc. And even blu-ray only uses quarter of 1080p resolution for color. But unfortunately, 4K content and HDR are locked to 4K tvs.

1080p gaming is far from maxed out too. Textures and lod still have lots of room of improvement, as well as AA solutions that do not blur the entire picture. That's all your getting rendering the same assets at 4K, better AA. It's not like last gen when 480p games already had better assets and were trying to squeeze a 16:9 picture in 4:3 frame buffers.

Sure 4K resolution has benefits, the same as super sampling. At least rendering the game at 4K should put shadows, reflections and other effects quality on par with 1080p, as they're always rendered at lower resolutions.

It will be kind of a weird situation. 30 degree fov at 4K for TV, vs 100 degree fov at 1080p for VR. If you think VR looks low res now, wait until after some 4K gaming!

sarcasm???

Not at all, I would much rather see the quality of games you could achieve with 6teraflops @ 1080p would be absolutely mindblowing.

The best of both worlds should be the way to go for them: 1440p @60fp upscaled to 4k with added effects. That way both groups of costumers (those with a 4k TV set and those with a normal HDTV) would profit equally.

I agree. I prefer 1080p/60 fps with high settings than 4k/30 fps with low/medium settings.

yeah i have also added a poll , so vote guys

The best would be a locked 30FPS, 1080p and use all that power for overall visual fidelity and crazy level design. But, alas, that is never going to happen. The ps4 will still be the main focus for developers and they are just not going to make games that are going to look that much worse on the platform that makes them the most money.

I absolutely agree.

Neo has a completely revised Graphics Processor which learns a few new tricks like colour compression which helps bolster the already increased memory bandwidth, each pipeline is also more efficient allowing for more work to be done.

It's a larger increase than the numbers would imply at any rate.

The Playstation 4 and Xbox One can already output 4k for streaming and thus one would assume, gaming. -Unfortunately they don't have 4k Blu-ray support.

I consider both Scorpio and Neo to be half-gen increases.