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Soundwave said:
Nuvendil said:

Well I don't think the 2000s are unanimously better.  Nor the 80s myself.  But I do feel that nearly every era has it's area where it is stronger than most others when you look at it's elites list.  90s certainly has better centers than the 2000s and onwards.  But better than the 80s, 70s, or even the late 60s?  I should think not.  Kareem, Wilt, Russell are the big three of those eras and all make it on to top 10 lists regularly with ease.  Kareem and Wilt are the most common proposed alternatives to Jordan as the GOAT. 

I'll say the current era has the better sharpshooters, that's pretty much undeniable.  90s is actually a big jack of all trades era.  There's Shaq that came in to rep the centers, Jordan for the shooting guards.  But other than them not many primarily 90s players have a snowballs chance for a top 10 spot on most lists that I can think of.  But a lot of them make top 50s or 100s.  Every era is different, with officiating and chance changing the make up of the league.  Unanimously declaring one era better in every single way than all others and then using that to venerate one set of players and then downplay all others is a narrowminded and simplistic way of approaching a highly complex discussion.

I'd put a prime Hakeem or a late 90s/early 2000s Shaq against any center in any era. They'd more than hold their own IMO. 

Hakeem is the most skilled center ever with great size and agility to go with it, Shaq is the most relenetlessly powerful center ever even Wilt said he would not attack the rim the way Shaq does. 

All the great centers in the 90s would hold their own in any era. 7 foot and taller men that can play basketball at a high level are rare. The 90s for some reason had a high number of those people. I dont think its a change of style that is affecting this . There just hasnt been a player with the right body and skill.



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Pinkie_pie said:
Soundwave said:

I'd put a prime Hakeem or a late 90s/early 2000s Shaq against any center in any era. They'd more than hold their own IMO. 

Hakeem is the most skilled center ever with great size and agility to go with it, Shaq is the most relenetlessly powerful center ever even Wilt said he would not attack the rim the way Shaq does. 

All the great centers in the 90s would hold their own in any era. 7 foot and taller men that can play basketball at a high level are rare. The 90s for some reason had a high number of those people. I dont think its a change of style that is affecting this . There just hasnt been a player with the right body and skill.

This as well.  Chance plays a part in these things.  6'11 to 7'1" is the ideal size but ironically the rarest.  And to be clear, my previous post isn't saying Shaq would suck in the 60s or 70s.  Rather that those there would not be lessened and that there were better then.  Shaq in the 60s or 70s would just be another star in a star studded era for big men. 

But officiating tendencies do effect some things.  In this touchier league, many rough and tough big men would get in foul trouble.  Doesn't mean big men can't dominate, rather that it's harder.  The best would still do well. 



burninmylight said:

 

"WE WOULD BEAT THE SHIT OUT OF THOSE YOUNG CATS!"

-Every former player ever

That might be the case but what Pippen said is absolutely true the 1995-1996 Bulls are miles better then this years Warriors team they would hold a size and strenght advantage against every starter and backup player on the Warriors.  No one on the Warriors could contain Jordan.  Pippen has enough size and was a great defender that he could shut down Curry, Thompson and Green.  Rodman would dominate the boards and even Luc Longley has enough size and strenght that he would dominate the Golden State front court and on top of that they had two veteran legit 7 foot centers on the bench.