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cesarmgc on 17 June 2016

The extra power is "EXCLUSIVE" Sony games... that's all :D



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thismeintiel on 17 June 2016

I also think we need to consider what the upgraded systems are for. From the way MS is talking, it seems the Scorpio is basically just going to be used to output the same XBO games, but at 4K. Hence, the "unless you have a 4K TV, Scorpio isn't going to do anything for you" comment. So, only higher res, no real improvement to visuals.

From what I have read, it seems Sony is giving devs more freedom to choose how to use the Neo. I'm thinking more along the lines of 1080p 30/60fps will be the minimum requirement, then devs use the extra power for whatever they want. You want to make the same game, but in native 4K, have at it. But, if you want to keep the res at native 1080p, we have an upscaler to get it to 4K, and you can push the visuals as far as you can.

Personally, the 2nd one is more appealing to me. And given Sony's true exclusives it still has to come out, I think the vast majority of gamers looking to upgrade are going to stay with the PS4 family. No secret sauce has, or will, change this.



 

captain carot on 17 June 2016

PS4 Neos power is irrelevant because most multiplats are ported from PC. As long as Scorpio sells devs will use the power. It's not about Neo really.



Aerys on 17 June 2016

good thread



but i wont buy neo



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Swordmasterman on 17 June 2016
Bandorr said:

There are some features that can get me to buy a new console. 4k isn't one of those. At least - not yet. Maybe along the line when bundled with a nice TV - but right away? No.

Buttons instead of the tabs. More than two usb. Less power usage.

Maybe a constant 1080/60. I can't really tell the difference between resolutions and frame-rates that often, so a constant one would let me get used to it and maybe see/feel the difference.

I hope that those consoles will not get any exclusive that their older brothers can't run.



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Ck1x on 17 June 2016
Spankey said:
Ck1x said:
Not gonna lie in have no interest in Xbox or Playstation because you can get the more important games on PC, but Xbox anywhere actually piqued my interest in the brand. Buy games digitally and play them on Xbox one or multiple Windows 10 devices is a major selling point!

will it be like the PS4 RemotePlay app where i can play PS4 from an android device or a PC, or is this more like you're allowed multiple instals on a number of devices?

Sorry for asking but i missed the news about this feature :(

The way they showed it like it was multiple installs as long as you have Xbox live subscription current. 



Swordmasterman on 17 June 2016
zero129 said:
Swordmasterman said:

It was too long ago and I don't remember what you posted. We not stated that the Xbox One is the end of Microsoft's generation it was  Microsoft who stated it with "A place where no one is left behind" they stated that they don't play to stay making Generations, they killed it for their console, while Sony said that  even with the Neo on the market this does not means that they will not release a PS5.

How you get that the wont be another Xbox after Scorpio from that is beyond me. That or your reading it completly wrong and making it sound the way you want it to. This is no different then what Sony is also doing and to try make it out to be is just silly imo.

I'm not saying that there will be no other Xbox, I just said that Microsoft don't plan to stay in this Generation thing and that does not means that Sony or Nintendo should stop it or that it can't exist without Microsoft.

After saying that they will no longer have generations they have to make every game avaliable for the previous system despite how bad it runs on the System, and with that statement we will probably see Xbox Hardware more often than Playstation or Nintendo, but with different price tags.



Zekkyou on 17 June 2016
zero129 said:
i dont know how to reply back to both of you since both of you is gone completly off topic from what i was originally saying.

I mean you guys are going on about something of how MS is leaving generations and sony isnt, and the PS4k is just a more powerful ps4, and the xbox1 scorpio is the end of ms generations etc etc.

Whats this got to do with my original post?.
If you want to reply to more than 1 person, you can use the multi-quote button (it's next to quote). Press the MQ button for person A, then normal quote person B (or MQ person A, B, C, etc, then quote the last). All the quotes should be there, with room under each for your comment (or you can delete that space if you don't need it).


LudicrousSpeed on 17 June 2016
thismeintiel said:

I also think we need to consider what the upgraded systems are for. From the way MS is talking, it seems the Scorpio is basically just going to be used to output the same XBO games, but at 4K. Hence, the "unless you have a 4K TV, Scorpio isn't going to do anything for you" comment. So, only higher res, no real improvement to visuals.

From what I have read, it seems Sony is giving devs more freedom to choose how to use the Neo. I'm thinking more along the lines of 1080p 30/60fps will be the minimum requirement, then devs use the extra power for whatever they want. You want to make the same game, but in native 4K, have at it. But, if you want to keep the res at native 1080p, we have an upscaler to get it to 4K, and you can push the visuals as far as you can.

Personally, the 2nd one is more appealing to me. And given Sony's true exclusives it still has to come out, I think the vast majority of gamers looking to upgrade are going to stay with the PS4 family. No secret sauce has, or will, change this.

Developers have the same freedom to use the Scorpio's power however they want just as they do with Neo, just more of it with Scorpio :)



thismeintiel on 17 June 2016
LudicrousSpeed said:
thismeintiel said:

I also think we need to consider what the upgraded systems are for. From the way MS is talking, it seems the Scorpio is basically just going to be used to output the same XBO games, but at 4K. Hence, the "unless you have a 4K TV, Scorpio isn't going to do anything for you" comment. So, only higher res, no real improvement to visuals.

From what I have read, it seems Sony is giving devs more freedom to choose how to use the Neo. I'm thinking more along the lines of 1080p 30/60fps will be the minimum requirement, then devs use the extra power for whatever they want. You want to make the same game, but in native 4K, have at it. But, if you want to keep the res at native 1080p, we have an upscaler to get it to 4K, and you can push the visuals as far as you can.

Personally, the 2nd one is more appealing to me. And given Sony's true exclusives it still has to come out, I think the vast majority of gamers looking to upgrade are going to stay with the PS4 family. No secret sauce has, or will, change this.

Developers have the same freedom to use the Scorpio's power however they want just as they do with Neo, just more of it with Scorpio :)

Then why the 4K TV comment?  If they truly have the freedom to keep a game at 1080p, while pushing graphics, why would Spencer say the Scorpio will do nothing for you unless you have a 4K TV?  I think that's just wishful thinking on your part.

To me it seems they are just tired of being looked down at for having games run at a lower resolution, so they are coming out with a system that will output games at 4K.  And considering how much power that's going to take, I highly doubt they will be pushing anything else very much.  So, like I said, basically the same games, only in 4K.