| GoOnKid said: Agreed, it's completely overhyped, as is the race for higher resolution in general. |
You still enjoy your ntsc?
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Peh said:
You still enjoy your ntsc? |
PAL dude here. But yeah, I enjoyed it very much and still do occasionally.
| Intrinsic said: Just this morning i got the chamce of going to a store that allowed me play some 4k content on two identical 50" TVs with the dfferemce being that one was a 4k Tv and the other a 1080p TV. And i found out something shocking. 4k is really a scam. Now i have 20/20 vision, and i was initially standing around 10ft from the TVs and I could just not see the difference between the two images. Absolutely none at all. NOTHING. So i started invhing closer to the TVs. When i got to around 5ft, i still couldn't see the difference, but at this point, if i squinted really hard i could kimda syart making out the individual pixels on the 1080p TV. But this required that I fovus on a partivular point on the screen and squint superhard to see them. Now i feel that like 3D, 4k is ome of those hyped up things from a different display doctrine that has just unnesecerily made its way to the consumer TV space. On a PC, sitting less than 3ft from a monitor and staring at a 27-32" screen i can clearly see why 4k could be better, barely than say a 1400p monitor. But at 10ft, its just useless. And i typically use a 110" 1080p screen at home, sitting at 10ft, and even then i could hardly make out thr pixels unless im looking at a pure white screen and focus at a point and squint. Please discuss..... I am beginnig to think this is jist a collective brain wash to make people upgrade their TVs. |
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Let's face it...1080p is a scam.
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| Jon-Erich said: I'll tell you what's a real scam. That is Ultra HD Blu-Ray. While it will be good for older analog movies and the newest movies that are actually being filmed in 4k and 8k, it will be absolutely meaningless for most movies that have been released over the last 15 years. Sure, they can be upscaled but it will be impossible to watch something like the Avengers in a true 4k format. So, if you see that movie available on that format and it says Ultra HD, they're lying to you. |
It would still be considered 4K, since it is displaying in a 4K resolution. A remaster won't be as good as footage shot natively in 4K, but it'll look better than 1080p.
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I won't be buying a 4K TV until they are the common place version. I won't pay extra for such a pointless difference in quality. Especially when you consider that broadcast TV is just now reaching a point where majority is 1080i (not p) and rest is still 720p. It will be another 5 years or so before everything is at least 1080p let alone anything being broadcasted as 4K.
Seems to me like downplaying to be honest.
1080p is perfect for my 47''-TV (and I don't have the space to replace it with a bigger model.
But 1080p on my 80'' projection screen could be improved a lot by 4K. Unfortunately, 4K projectors are still A LOT more expensive than 4K TVs: http://4k.com/projector/
Sony VPL-VW 4K projectors for $8,000 - $28,000? My Sony VPL-VW50 (1080p) was around €2,000 in 2008, €2,400 if I include the spare lamp.
To speak the truth, resolution is least important part of gaming or even watching movies. Right now and even for many years in the future, 4K is just too much for consoles and for most PC's anyway. Most people haven't noticed that even most big-budget movies have been filmed in 2K. Even Gravity was filmed with 2K although it was released only couple years ago and no one complained about that and it even won a lot of technical oscars. And with games I would rather choose even 720p/60hz than 4K/30Hz.
Good movie is a good movie no matter the resolution and bad movie won't get any better with higher resolution. I still watch old movies from 40's and 50's and I don't think resolution would make no difference when I watch those movies.
And to speak the truth, 4K seems better than 1080p because new panels have better quality anyway. 3-year-old 1080p TV would have much worse quality than new 1080p TV. You have to remember that expensive TV can have 10 times better picture quality than cheap TV even if both had exactly same resolution. And good 1080p TV is always much better than bad 4K TV.
| crissindahouse said: I don't have 20/20 and I can see easily a difference. But HDR is much more useful to increase the wow effect as 1080p -> 4k. That's why people should really look at their TV to have HDR when they buy a 4K TV in the future. HDR is much more important for how useful their 4K TV will be the next years as the higher resolution will be. HDR really blows your mind if you see it. |
I keep hearing about High Dynamic Range TVs. I think the reason why its more impressive than 4k is because our eyes are more sensivitve to color than they are to resolution. The human eye is quite an amazing thing.
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