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KLXVER said:
betacon said:

In regard to sony not having dates well yea but doing a better job? How many games have theyre released so far this year to Sony?

I must have missed something. Where does he say they are doing a better job than Sony?

In the article lol



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DoctorHorrible said:
KLXVER said:

He doesnt say that at all. He just thinks that other companies arent doing a better job than MS. Very different.

Sure buddy.

What? It says so in the article. Maybe you should actually read what he says.lol



KLXVER said:
Runa216 said:

So?  based on sales and review scores both, Sony is doing a better job producing better games that more peopel want.  

Hell, the Uncharted Collection sold more than the Halo Master Chief collection despite the Halo series being among the top selling game franchises of all time.  

I'm not too worried.  both consoles are doing great in my eye, and it's a CEO's job to push their product as superior.  Phil isn't doing anything wrong here, just his job.  His statement is correct, sure, but it doesn't really matter to the quality of said games in the long run. I'd rather have good games delayed than forcing mediocre games out early.  I'm sure Xbox's exclusives are great and all, but I'm sure I'll enjoy Playstation's better, and if sales are any indication, I'm not the only one. 

Console wars should pipe down and we should all just enjoy what we saw this year.  I'm stoked for too many games to get into a huff about it.  

What does sales have to do with anything? If he said that MS makes better games then other companies, then I would call BS. The fact is that many big games didnt get release dates.

Absolutely true.

But are we back to wanting release dates early only to have them pushed and delayed later on? I swear only a moment ago I heard people saying "don't fucking announce a release date if you can't keep it".

 

Maybe Phil should concentrate on delivering on his E3 2014 games (Crackdown 3, Scalebound, Phantom Dust) before he talks dirt about competitors.



I wouldn't be surprised if Phil is like this because his job is on the line and hanging by a thread.

Their conference wasn't exactly exciting or getting many praises and I doubt it wasn't convincing enough to get a lot of people to jump in or switch over from their competitors. Hell, Nintendo got a lot more positive results and all they had to do was show one game, no date.



KLXVER said:
betacon said:

In regard to sony not having dates well yea but doing a better job? How many games have theyre released so far this year to Sony?

I must have missed something. Where does he say they are doing a better job than Sony?

Xbox boss doesn’t believe Sony is “doing a better job” shipping more exclusives



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Bandorr said:
That is one salty CEO. He must be under extreme pressure to make such a petty public statement.

It's not been an entirely unjustified opinion. Sony has announced things well in advance of release... how many of the huge announcements from last year are we playing right now? Here's the big titles I can recall that made a huge impact at the time and whether we're playing them right now: 

Last Guardian: No
Horizon: No
Street Fighter V: Yes
Dreams: No
Shenmue III: Long way off
FF VII: No
Firewatch: Yes
No Man's Sky: Still at least two months off
Uncharted 4: Yes

From those presentations last year the only real success within a year was Uncharted 4. Now for those presented or discussed this year including carry-overs from last year with a *:

*Last Guardian: October 25
*Horizon: Feb 28 2017
*Final Fantasy VII: Unknown
*No Man's Sky: Probably August
*Dreams: Maybe a beta this year?
Spiderman: Unknown
Death Stranding: Unknown
Crash Bandicoot Remaster: Unknown
FFXV: September 30th (not an exclusive though, coming to Xbox1 as well)
Detroit Become Human: Unknown
All VR titles: Unknown
Farpoint: Unknown
Resident Evil 7: Jan 2017 (not exclusive, coming to Xbox1)
God of War 4: Unknown
Days Gone: Unknown

 

I'm sure there's some I'm forgetting and didn't bother with indie games, but Spencer's claims aren't exactly inaccurate. The above represent the majority of the huge titles that really psyched those of us who watched the presentation, but really we haven't played many yet.

From the above list, only three exclusive games that aren't also on the Xbox1 came out or are confirmed to come out within a full year of the initial announcement, and another three are likely to come out in year two, with one potential (but unconfirmed) beta. 

These numbers could improve, but really the games we got hyped for have indeed been announced well in advance. I'd say the only clear success within a year of announcement over the last two years is Uncharted 4.

I don't really mind as it seems to me we'll soon have one hell of a library once all these projects pan out, but they've definitely announced things ahead of time... I don't think it's unreasonable for Spencer to defend his platform and point out that most of their games are releasing in the immediate future.



betacon said:
KLXVER said:

I must have missed something. Where does he say they are doing a better job than Sony?

Xbox boss doesn’t believe Sony is “doing a better job” shipping more exclusives

Well thats his words. I just agree with the release date thing.



KLXVER said:
betacon said:

Xbox boss doesn’t believe Sony is “doing a better job” shipping more exclusives

Well thats his words. I just agree with the release date thing.

And you ignore the reasoning behind it being these games were announced well in advanced already.



It's so disingenuous to look only at the main press conference nowadays. E3 is now a full week of news. Not just one block of 75-90 minutes. The conference is meant to showcase big reveals and surprises. I really don't care about seeing only titles coming out soon. It's where I expect to see games coming out way past that.



DoctorHorrible said:
KLXVER said:

Well thats his words. I just agree with the release date thing.

And you ignore the reasoning behind it being these games were announced well in advanced already.

Ok, so MS didnt have more release dates then?