I hope the framerate looking like shit it's just my pc or because it's from a livestream, and not WiiU having a hard time running it. With a few minutes I still don't see it, I mean I get the world is bigger but where starts the interesting part because the video is too long, lol

1, 2, 3 - Horizon

4 - Zelda

Zelda's world looks dead. Horizon for me.

Horizon.

As someone who is unabashedly neither a fan of Guerrilla Games or Zelda and think that there are already way too many open world games, I think Horizon has the superior combat system, but Zelda has a grander sense of scale.

They'll probably both end up being dumped into my "I know this game is good, but there is no way I'm going to play through this" category. Especially since they're both coming around the time I will be playing through Persona 5 about three times consecutively. That said, I'm probably more likely to get Zelda when/if I pick up an NX.

Let me split there back up.

The other person I'm reponding to talked about Uncharted and you personally haven't called anyone biased or ignorant, but others in the thread have.

Let me go back through your last post more closely.

"You're not getting the point, you're saying that it has less wildlife running around or what not but that is made up by the sheer number of activities you're doing, the game doesn't need what you're complaining about, those trees you're talking about for example all can be cut down for resources or picked for fruits that grow back, this is something other open world games that have what you say don't feature."

The issue you bring up, and the one I'm talking about are two different things. Having one thing doesn't "make up" for missing another. Being able to pick fruit, and snowboard, and climb everything are all really cool features. But, their value to the game is different than the value provided by a lush, living world.

The new Zelda game looks great, and does a lot of cool things that I haven't really seen done together before. But that doesn't really change the conversation at hand in any way.

Out of the two? God of War

Really? Its so damn obvious this looks like Ghibli that it hurts, and yes i have seen every single movie the company has done, this is clearly inspired by that style.

Well this makes more sense now, on what we're debating I disagree as it comes down to the overall execution of the game, cool features I mentioned make up for that short coming because the world is designed in such a way to encourage their use. A common problem with many open world games in general is that they have these lush envirionments but what you do in them is pretty uninteresting, after the novalty of looking at the nice landscape has passed the game starts to suffer.

The Zelda seems geared towards what you as the player can do to engage yourself while having a good artistic look for the world as opposed to being overly lush. You may not have thousands of NPCs running around but it's looking like you'd have a tonne of different things to do or play around with.

1. I can't tell if you're being serious? The Witcher is an open world game. Uncharted is not. Zelda, is an open world game. Why are we even talking about this?

2. When someone is comparing something to something else, they don't need to be at opposite ends of a spectrum to be different. So when someone says the world is "empty" they don't actually mean they think Nintendo started the stream, and it was litterally a perfectly flat, baren stretch of nothingness.

3. I agree 100%. However, the world in BotW isn't one step away from having towns every 100 feet or being crowded in any way. If you doubled the amount of trees and animals, and obsticals, ect. in the world. It still wouldn't feel crowded.

4. I'll refer you back to 2 and 3 for the first part of this point. The world in Far Cry 4 has a lot more going on in it than BotW seems to. That doesn't nessicarily mean that the player has objectives all over the place. Just that the game world has lots of other things in it besides just things that the player needs to interact with to progress through the game.

5. I recommend you go back and read some more of this thread. you'll find the posts you seek. That 5 (4 actually) hours of gameplay was different people playing in the same area. How many times did those people go over the same areas and do the same things? How much of that time was spend travelling from one thing to another?

Your last two lines are litteraly the point. The game is "emptier" than some other games. Some people feel that makes the game worse.