Mr Puggsly said:
A vast majority of muders is gang related. So if you ignore those idiots killing each, our murder and crime rate is significantly lower. Hence, stay out of gang infested areas. This club thing seems to be terrorism, so thats a unique problem thanks to a group overseas. |
terrorism isn't a unique problem from a group overseas, most terrorism in the US is domestic (so was this) and motivated by white supremacy
| konnichiwa said: Well this was the suspects weapon: You can just buy those? |
yea, it's a "tacti-cool" weapon, it looks like a military weapon (as it's based on the M16), but when you buy it it has no full auto fire mode making it not much different than a hunting rifle - that said it can be modified to have one
| tinfamous12 said: To all of those saying this is a terrorist attack, okay, great! Say it's a terrorist attack (even though his parents are saying it was a hate crime and that their son had extreme dislike of gays), but lets ask this, was Sandy Hook a terrorist attack? Were all the movie theater shootings a terrorist attack? Was Columbine? Was Virginia Tech? Was UCLA? The list goes on and on and on! Lets be real here. |
In a nutshell, the motive matters.
If you dont understand why, just think about it.
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terrorism isn't a unique problem from a group overseas, most terrorism in the US is domestic (so was this) and motivated by white supremacy
yea, it's a "tactic-cool" weapon, it looks like a military weapon (as is based on the M16), but when you buy it it has no full auto fire mode making it not much different than a hunting rifle - that said it can be modified to have one |
White supemacy? Maybe I need more information.
I heard potential international terrorism.
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| Mr Puggsly said: White supemacy? Maybe I need more information. |
this particular attack obviously wasn't motivated by that, but most terrorist attacks in the US are
tinfamous12 said:
Over 50 people just died within a 20 foot radius of each other because of a man and his assualt rifle, and you can really say we dont need gun control? This area of Orlando is not a poor area either, this is not a result of poverty, this is a result of someone being able to easily buy something who shouldnt be able to. Sure there are law abiding citizens who are responsible with their firearms, but sometimes you have to take things away for the greater good. People just lost their children, friends, boyfriends, girlfriends, spouses, and all we can say is "It may be an act of terrorism"? I'll bet he bought the guns in Florida, with cold hard cash. It's too easy for people to have guns, and we need to put a stop to it. Just my opinion. You cant even go out to celebrate, or watch a movie, or send your kids to school now without worries of something happening. |
I like civilize debate without the name calling. No amount of Gun Control would have stopped him from killing 50 plus people. He could've easily walked into the dance club with just an explosive vest alone and done more damage, and mass casualties than using a firearm. The A-Hole could have rented a U-Haul truck loaded up with explosives and killed everybody at the dance club, and no gun control laws would have stopped him. Tim McViegh and the original WTC Bombers in the early 90's proves you don't need a firearm to do mass casualities and damages. We had "Prohibition" in 1920 for the "greater good", and that did not work out no matter how good or not the intentions were. It brought out the likes of AL Capone and organize crime. Eventually it was repealed because of crime it brought.
coolbeans said:
After a background check, you could. |
If true, that's truly horrific. No civilian needs to have one of these and with all the nut jobs in the world, disasters are bound to happen.
| konnichiwa said: Well this was the suspects weapon:
You can just buy those? |
Thats ridiculous. Put your pride aside and look at countries that have sensible gun laws, these kind of attrocities dont happen. At least not nearly at the same frequency.
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mjo011 said:
If true, that's truly horrific. No civilian needs to have one of these and with all the nut jobs in the world, disasters are bound to happen. |
What if I told you all of the guns in the following picture shoot the same ammunition at the same rate? Looks can be decieving. The one on the top is just as deadly as the others.
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