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sc94597 on 12 June 2016
SubiyaCryolite said:
konnichiwa said:

Well this was the suspects weapon:

 

You can just buy those?

Thats ridiculous. Put your pride aside and look at countries that have sensible gun laws, these kind of attrocities dont happen. At least not nearly at the same frequency.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/November_2015_Paris_attacks

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Charlie_Hebdo

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Anders_Behring_Breivik

Um? 



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VaultDweller on 12 June 2016

Religious extremism and hate crimes... a truly horrible duo



Lafiel on 12 June 2016
sc94597 said:
SubiyaCryolite said:

Thats ridiculous. Put your pride aside and look at countries that have sensible gun laws, these kind of attrocities dont happen. At least not nearly at the same frequency.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/November_2015_Paris_attacks

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Charlie_Hebdo

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Anders_Behring_Breivik

Um? 

whataboutism is a fallacy

there already were 133 mass shootings (4+ shot) in the US in 2016 http://www.gunviolencearchive.org/reports/mass-shooting?page=5 and I'm certain >90% of them wouldn't have happened if there was a different gun culture in the US



Boutros on 12 June 2016
sc94597 said:
SubiyaCryolite said:

Thats ridiculous. Put your pride aside and look at countries that have sensible gun laws, these kind of attrocities dont happen. At least not nearly at the same frequency.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/November_2015_Paris_attacks

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Charlie_Hebdo

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Anders_Behring_Breivik

Um? 

Europe is not seperated by an ocean from jihadist groups. Geographical limitations protect North America from many attacks that would otherwise just add up to the current ones.

And we don't know how many attacks have been prevented by stricter gun control in Europe. Those are the ones that really matter. But of course we won't hear about them.



acer67 on 12 June 2016

these religous terrorists attacks happen in US and Europe ....thats what we need to focus on is how to combat the terrorists!!



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SubiyaCryolite on 12 June 2016
sc94597 said:
SubiyaCryolite said:

Thats ridiculous. Put your pride aside and look at countries that have sensible gun laws, these kind of attrocities dont happen. At least not nearly at the same frequency.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/November_2015_Paris_attacks

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Charlie_Hebdo

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Anders_Behring_Breivik

Um? 

Lol, are you trying to suggest that gun violence in France and Norway is in any way comparable to what goes down in the US every. single. day? Are you serious? (you also missed the bold)



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WolfpackN64 on 12 June 2016
ZoneDaiatlas said:

I'm going to get crucified for saying this, but oh well...  "Those who would give up essential Liberty, to purchase a little temporary Safety, deserve neither Liberty nor Safety."  There are many interpretations of Benjamin Franklin famous quote, but to me.  I would not give up my right to own a firearm.

But in many European countries, you CAN get a firearm. They just need a background check, proof you can handle the weapon and not carry it in public. Is that too much too ask?



Mr Puggsly on 12 June 2016
Lafiel said:
Mr Puggsly said:

White supemacy? Maybe I need more information.

this particular attack obviously wasn't motivated by that, but most terrorist attacks in the US are

I need to see the statistics on that.

But when a bunch of people get killed these days around the world, its never surprising to hear its an Islamic extremeist. Its become too normal and people will just blame guns.



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WolfpackN64 on 12 June 2016
sc94597 said:

So now that this turned out to be a terrorist attack, does Europe also have a "violence" problem, considering there have been some high-scale bombings and shootings by terrorists lately?

Of course the thread is predictable as ever. Europeans who have never lived here or been here lecturing us on our homicide rates without considering the causing effects(war on drugs) and distribution (inner city ghettos.)

The guy had higly illegal explosives strapped to himself. What kind of gun control would help? How did gun control help in Paris?

In case of terrorist attacks, gun control is near useless.

But in any other case of mass shooting in the US, we have every right to lecture you. The problem in many cases of mass shootings in the US is that kids and teens can nearly pick a gun off a kitchen counter. If people who are unstable or radicalizing (in any way, shape or form) can get a gun this easily, you're asking for trouble.



acer67 on 12 June 2016

Omar Mateen, Terrorist Who Attacked Orlando Gay Club, Had Been Investigated by FBI
“Ramadan, the month of conquest and jihad. Get prepared, be ready...to make it a month of calamity everywhere for the non-believers...especially for the fighters and supporters of the caliphate in Europe and America,”
i hope for everyone here to be careful and safe!