TGS  anouncement, release this Holiday(from October 1)

Sounds more like they don’t want to announce it until they know what MS are doing with Scorpio. Like what they did with the PS4, they up the specs to make sure it was the more powerful system to the X1. PS4 was originally going to have 4gigs of Ram, when they found out the X1 had 8gigs, they changed it to match and better it.

Honestly at this point it just seems like a bad idea imho.

I think they should have just 'slim' refreshed the PS4 with a pure die-shrink and BD4K. They could have hit $199 with that. Then wait for 2nd gen 14nm production and HBM2 to make PS5 a ludicrous (and fully BC!) system in 2019. Something with 10tflops+ would be pretty straightfoward then.

If they go ahead with Neo (and I see zero evidence to the contrary), then PS5 is basically out of the question for a while yet unless they want to piss off double the people. This is kind of what happened to Sega.

Happy Genesis fans :

okay, we'll buy a Sega CD
what, now a Sega 32X add-on? Fine.
what, now a totally new console called the Saturn? Ehhhh, okay.
what, the Saturn is already done, and you want us to buy the Dreamcast? Yeah right.

The Dreamcast was a fantastic piece of hardware, but they crippled their own market by repeatedly shifting hardware so fast. PS1 had ate their lunch, and most people just waited for PS2, leaving Sega dead in the water.

I'm not saying Sony is in the same situation, but it's some of the same mistakes. Hardware is NOT needed right now, what we need is the promised software releases to keep coming steady. It's been a pretty slow gen for 1st party so far, and going possibly PS4 > PS4 Neo / PSVR > PS5 in succession may saturate/divide their market.

The same exact problems are faced by MS, only I think they're perhaps even more vulnerable as they've already lost a ton of marketshare globally since Gen7. Risking anything else is poor form. It's not like the X1 fell behind PS4 much because of the performance gap.

Hm, my money is still on it releasing this year. The rumors said it was unlikely to be revealed at E3 anyway.

I think there is a 90% chance it's comming this year, as in my opinion doing a full announcement of a higher spec console refresh that is coming 4 month later is stupid and would just tank sales for that time period.

There are other big events like Gamescom and TGS that are closer to holidays and can be used for this announcement/the start of the marketing campaign.

I was going to say "Yes, it's possible" but remembering VR is rolling out this year, it seems more like an unlikely now. Buying VR and PS4K seems like too much... or people have much more income these days.

Easily 2017, now that the NX and rumoured Scorpio is said to be released in 2017 then Sony can take their sweet time perfecting the Neo and release it the same time. And this way it wont feel as awkward as it'll be released when the others are too.

2017

2016. Why announceme a new console months in advance?

Personally I've always thought it would release early 2017.