Swordmasterman said:
Its a pain in the ass for the Developers because they are EA, Activision, and Ubisoft. |
They are Game Publishers not developers.
Can't wait. Just got a 4K tv last month and ready to start watching 4K blu Rays on it!
I don't understand the reasoning behind confirming its existence now and not show it at E3. This will make the PS4 Neo the talking point during E3 without being shown and could risk dampening sales of the regular PS4 in anticipation of the better model. Also, PS4 Neo is the "hardcore" alternative? What does that make the regular PS4?
| Puppyroach said: I don't understand the reasoning behind confirming its existence now and not show it at E3. This will make the PS4 Neo the talking point during E3 without being shown and could risk dampening sales of the regular PS4 in anticipation of the better model. Also, PS4 Neo is the "hardcore" alternative? What does that make the regular PS4? |
There are many meanings to the word hardcore.
But I'm sure you knew that already...
| SvennoJ said: Kinda unexpected they're planning on selling them both side by side for the rest of the generation. That only raises more questions of why and what for. Perhaps it's still an answer to the failed slim model. Can't increase profits with a cheap to produce slim, introduce an equally expensive to make improved version to sell at a premium. Make the original one look like a good deal, and reap the profits on the premium model. Otherwise I've got nothing. Why potentially piss of your existing user base and developers while adding confusion for potential buyers. I doubt the NX or a better XBox is making Sony do this, they never had a problem having the weakest console before and U4 doesn't exactly look bad. Nor PSVR or 4K are a reason. A new hdmi port would be sufficient, heck the existing one can already do video in 4K just not at 60fps. Guess the title should be, Sony confirms shooting themselves in the foot. Not that it matters, they're walking on air for now anyway. |
How they are shooting themselfs in the foot if all they do is keeping up with the times? Mobile, macs and PC they all work like this now with different models
Ruler said:
How they are shooting themselfs in the foot if all they do is keeping up with the times? Mobile, macs and PC they all work like this now with different models |
Normally a console can sell between 80-120m if its a sony console. They've sold 40m so far, so I think its too early to say they have shot themselves in the foot when there is so much scope for selling more.
I think the reason Phil Spencer was moaning about .5 consoles was that sony has again pulled a fast one over MS. They were hoping Sony were going to do a normal 5-8 year console release, they would then make a new powerful console and release it at the end of 2017. The difference in specs between the PS4 and a XB2 would have been big enough for people to care and upgrade, and MS thought, hah we'll be out first we a new console. What they didnt consider was that Sony already thought the console needed a refresh and that rightly so even 5 years is too long for a new console. If Sony bring out the console this year, MS will have lost a year, rather than gained a year and the games will continue to work, and the gap will be not that substantial enough for people to upgrade.
What I dont get is why people think 5 years is an acceptable timeframe, thats alot of time, and lifewise you age alot in 5 years :(
I think the .5 upgrade is a perfect way to continue to provide a refresh of hardware, even if its only a minor upgrade, because it allows companies to consider new tech sooner rather than waiting another 5 or 8 years before they can introduce it and find out tech has moved on again.
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nanorazor said:
They are Game Publishers not developers. |
They are both, The biggest ones are made by them.
Madword said:
Normally a console can sell between 80-120m if its a sony console. They've sold 40m so far, so I think its too early to say they have shot themselves in the foot when there is so much scope for selling more. I think the reason Phil Spencer was moaning about .5 consoles was that sony has again pulled a fast one over MS. They were hoping Sony were going to do a normal 5-8 year console release, they would then make a new powerful console and release it at the end of 2017. The difference in specs between the PS4 and a XB2 would have been big enough for people to care and upgrade, and MS thought, hah we'll be out first we a new console. What they didnt consider was that Sony already thought the console needed a refresh and that rightly so even 5 years is too long for a new console. If Sony bring out the console this year, MS will have lost a year, rather than gained a year and the games will continue to work, and the gap will be not that substantial enough for people to upgrade. What I dont get is why people think 5 years is an acceptable timeframe, thats alot of time, and lifewise you age alot in 5 years :( I think the .5 upgrade is a perfect way to continue to provide a refresh of hardware, even if its only a minor upgrade, because it allows companies to consider new tech sooner rather than waiting another 5 or 8 years before they can introduce it and find out tech has moved on again. |
How many years did it takes to make games like The Elder Scrolls, GTA, Resident Evil (the main ones), Final Fantasy ?, it takes Several years and isn't like Mobile or PC where you can change the specs and you have a lot of options if something don't work well.
You want people to purchase consoles even before they have launched the games ?.
Swordmasterman said:
How many years did it takes to make games like The Elder Scrolls, GTA, Resident Evil (the main ones), Final Fantasy ?, it takes Several years and isn't like Mobile or PC where you can change the specs and you have a lot of options if something don't work well. You want people to purchase consoles even before they have launched the games ?. |
I'll be buying one, because i know it will mostly play the current games and all games from September. I want a faster console if i can have it... I am pretty sure there will be lots of others who feel the same. But I dont understand what that has to do with your statement on games, if you are making a PS4 game now, you'll have a small upgrade dev process to make it work... omg that sounds terrible. Not anything like the hassles of PS2 to PS3, and PS3 to PS4 dev swap overs. If you have ever worked in a games studio working on a game for a new gen, you'll know this is nothing like that and no problem if you are making a game on the consoles right now.
On a business note, do you feel they should have waited 1 year for MS to release a brand new console in 2017 or wait until 2018. It's very easy to sit on the sidelines saying they shouldnt do it, but unfortunately there are many reasons why they have to.
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