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Intrinsic on 27 May 2016
zero129 said:

Please explain to me where i used so many "If's". My statements are not IF's and trust me i have been right about a number of things before.

Including the console makers going the upgrade root long before it was a thing.

Like i said in another post. If you want to believe PS4 and PS4k Gamers will all play happy and nice and sit around a camp fire singing songs your more then welcome.

I think the reality will be more like you will have PS4 users who be grudge the PS4k users and you will have PS4k users thinking they are better then PS4 owners.

And yes the is a very very large number of people who buy a console cos they dont have upgrades. They know they will be playing the exact same games as their friends looking the exact same. This will no longer be the case.

Also what if MS allows devs to make XB1.5 exclusives. This would allow them to make games that look far beyond what the PS4 or Neo could do (If Neo is not allowed to have its own exclusives). Do you really think the wont come a point when Sony will also allow the same to show what the PS4Neo can do??.

Also when was the PS4Neos price announced??. For all you know it could launch at $500.

The GTX 1070 wipes the floor with the PS4 Neo when it comes to raw specs and that doesnt cost 400. Id imagine by the time the PS4k launches the price will be even lower and with AMD's cards out by then.

Main reason you dont want to get into the price argument is now you know the is no way you can win it.

Its a simple fact yes a persons first PC will cost more then a console. However after that it will tbe cheaper to upgrade your PC then it will be to upgrade your console. Lets not even get into that you need to add what an extra 150-200$ for 3-4 years of gaming on the PS systems if you want to play online.

Lol ok. And the only thing that goes into a PC is a GPU right? Ok. got you. 

Xb1.5 exclusives? neo exclusives..... and you wonder what "ifs" I am talking about? Even when everything so far points to the contrary. And you see that last point you made about playing to game online? That's why I don't get into price arguments. Cause I find that people like you can't approach them without bias and outlandish claims. Would u believe it if I tell you that for the past 3 years I have not spent more than 30hrs in total gaming online? But I pay for PS+ every single year. Shocking right? there are other reasons to get PS+ besides playing online. 

And you know whats really funny, when it comes to everything PC you seem to know all there is to know about prices, but fail to see acknowledge that you can also get deals on PSN cards. I have never spent more than $35 on a one year PSN card. Go figure. 



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Intrinsic on 27 May 2016
zero129 said:

Like i said so many of the same people who is praising Sony for the PS4k used to come into PC threads and use upgrades as a negitive point to PC gaming even when it was explained to them that a PC user doesnt need to upgrade every year they would be like "But if they want to play the best looking games they will". But now none of that matters. They are kidding themselfs if they think the wont be backlash for both the PS4K and the XB1.5 and they are kidding themselfs even more if they think this wont Split the PS4 userbase and the XB1 user base between the haves and have nots.

This is just garbage. You are screaming at problems that simply doesnt exist. And upgrades as a negative point against PC? 

I dont know about anyone else, so i wont speak for them. But i doubt anyone would base their critism of a platform on somethjng that is optional. You know? like upgrading your PC. Its a choice, you dont have to do it. And its one only necessary if you are the type that wants to get more out of your games. A CHOICE. 

My argument with PC gamers are when they come talking about 4k or 200fps and showing around 8k screen graps of games that they cant even play at 10fps on any rig and not only expect everyone to give a fuck but act like everyone is stupod for not making the same choices they made. Or when the talk about all the hoops one has to go through to build a a PC for $300 that is as powerful as a console and act like its not only the exact same thing thing but that its easier and better becasue they are right and everyone is wrong.

But you WILL not undertand any of this would you? You just CAN'T



Intrinsic on 27 May 2016
zero129 said:
Ruler said:

this is the same thing like buying a new console every 5 years, instead its 3 years and the games will be forward and backward compatible. I dont know how you think it is similiar to PC where you upgrade every single component and espacially the Windows OS giving you nothing but problems

First of all if your going to reply dont be using your bullshit statements.

You do not need to upgrade "Every component" of your PC whenever you go to upgrade your GPU.

My i5-2500k still wipes the floor with the CPU's thats in the PS4K and the one that will be in the XB1

Hell the is still CPU's out now thats over 7 years old and wipes the floor with the CPU's thats in the PS4K and XB1.

So that leaves us with just the GPU and also how is windows OS giving me problems?.

Shame if your a current PS4 owner you cant just go buy a new GPU for your console, instead you have to go Upgrade the whole thing every time you upgrade.

Are you kidding me? why are you talking to him or anyone for that matter like that all simply cause they domt share or agree with you? Thats a really shitty attitide you have there and i see you cant make u points without becoming hostile.

but pls answer this.... yes shame on us for not being able to upgrade only our GPU or whatever. But how muvh does it cost to upgrade the whole console for us as opposed to just say a 1070 GPU? 

Wait...... could it be even remotely possible that we just prefer to play on conosles? or are you so arrogamt and ignoramt to accept that others have their own preferences and that those preferences works for them? I actually had to look at ur profile page just to check your age cause u sound like you are 15 or something....

Anyways, im going to bow out of this conversation. in time we will see i guess. 



Intrinsic on 27 May 2016
zero129 said:
Intrinsic said:

Lol ok. And the only thing that goes into a PC is a GPU right? Ok. got you. 

Xb1.5 exclusives? neo exclusives..... and you wonder what "ifs" I am talking about? Even when everything so far points to the contrary. And you see that last point you made about playing to game online? That's why I don't get into price arguments. Cause I find that people like you can't approach them without bias and outlandish claims. Would u believe it if I tell you that for the past 3 years I have not spent more than 30hrs in total gaming online? But I pay for PS+ every single year. Shocking right? there are other reasons to get PS+ besides playing online. 

And you know whats really funny, when it comes to everything PC you seem to know all there is to know about prices, but fail to see acknowledge that you can also get deals on PSN cards. I have never spent more than $35 on a one year PSN card. Go figure. 

Lets not try using this as an argument.

You know well that with the consoles having such weak CPU's PC CPU's from 7+ years ago wipe the floor with them.

You also know that if a PC user buys a PC today they will not need to upgrade their CPU for a long long time as this wont be a bottlekneck thanks to the consoles.

So what does that leave??. Ram?. Thats cheap "IF" a user wants to add extra to their system but then if a user already has 16gb they should be good to go..

Hell i currently only have 8gb and have had no problems with any game.

We are going by retail prices here since id imagine that would be where most console gamers would get their PS+ cards or on the PSStore itself.

if we start going down the road of Deals and stuff it just makes things even more unfair for PS users. Also if them "Other reason" are the free games PC has that also.

In fact for like £7 a mont we have access to "LOTS" of games http://www.metaboli.co.uk/ . And thats just one service.

 

ok you win. Lets leave it alone. We all should game on PCs and just call it a day. 



Ruler on 27 May 2016
zero129 said:
Ruler said:

this is the same thing like buying a new console every 5 years, instead its 3 years and the games will be forward and backward compatible. I dont know how you think it is similiar to PC where you upgrade every single component and espacially the Windows OS giving you nothing but problems

First of all if your going to reply dont be using your bullshit statements.

You do not need to upgrade "Every component" of your PC whenever you go to upgrade your GPU.

My i5-2500k still wipes the floor with the CPU's thats in the PS4K and the one that will be in the XB1

Hell the is still CPU's out now thats over 7 years old and wipes the floor with the CPU's thats in the PS4K and XB1.

So that leaves us with just the GPU and also how is windows OS giving me problems?.

Shame if your a current PS4 owner you cant just go buy a new GPU for your console, instead you have to go Upgrade the whole thing every time you upgrade.

which cost as much as a graphics on PC you forgot to add.

And i can just sell my old console and put the money into my new purchase.

yes you dont need to upgrade every component but there are still dozzens of graphicscards to choose from, and at some point you have to upgrade the motherboard and thefore the entire PC and reinstall everythong which is will happen probably in a 5 years circle, the same time like a new console or even in less time.

New Windows OS's will diminish more and more the compatability of older games over time. The PS4 allready outsurvied 3 Windows version since its release 7, 8 and now 10.



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Azuren on 27 May 2016

Zero, Ruler;

You guys are arguing vehemently in two threads now. It's clear that neither of you are going to come to any kind of agreement when you're at each other's throats. Can both of you relax before moderators take action?



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Super_Boom on 27 May 2016

Knock it off. Now.

This thread concerns the upgraded PS4 and Xbox One, not anyone's opinion on whether or not PC gaming is a good value. There are other places to discuss these opinions, but that certainly isn't here. This back and forth can stop right now.

No more thread derailment, personal shots, and...especially, no backseat moderating. Enough is enough.



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onionberry on 27 May 2016

the one with better exclusive games to play



Azuren on 27 May 2016
Super_Boom said:
Knock it off. Now.

This thread concerns the upgraded PS4 and Xbox One, not anyone's opinion on whether or not PC gaming is a good value. There are other places to discuss these opinions, but that certainly isn't here. This back and forth can stop right now.

No more thread derailment, personal shots, and...especially, no backseat moderating. Enough is enough.

Hey now, I'm just a guy trying to keep a friend from getting himself into deep doody. Backseat moderating would be if I threatened them with moderation and reported them (which I didn't).



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Super_Boom on 27 May 2016
Azuren said:
Super_Boom said:
Knock it off. Now.

This thread concerns the upgraded PS4 and Xbox One, not anyone's opinion on whether or not PC gaming is a good value. There are other places to discuss these opinions, but that certainly isn't here. This back and forth can stop right now.

No more thread derailment, personal shots, and...especially, no backseat moderating. Enough is enough.

Hey now, I'm just a guy trying to keep a friend from getting himself into deep doody. Backseat moderating would be if I threatened them with moderation and reported them (which I didn't).

I didn't see your comment until I posted, so don't worry. I was referencing zero's earlier reply to Ruler.

If you believe a comment to warrant moderation, report it. This thread is not the place to discuss whether or not someone should have received mod action.



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