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Foxconn replaces '60,000 factory workers with robots'

One factory has "reduced employee strength from 110,000 to 50,000 thanks to the introduction of robots", a government official told the South China Morning Post.



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Things robots don't do/have: Attitude, norovirus, iPhone, twitter length attention span, Hep C, the 'runs', a hangover, a runny nose, a need to steal, a false SS#, a dirty uniform, an appetite, shedding skin/hair, a bus pass, a 'faulty' alarm clock, no babysitter, a special event every Sat, night, allergies, a sick puppy, a flat tire, bad alternator, 'beef' with another employee, romance w/manager, horseplay at work, spit, X boyfriends, forget to wash hands after restroom, and an entitled feeling. The robots won't smile and be friendly, but that is normal now anyways...



Mr Puggsly said:
Azuren said:
I like how he immediately stops thinking about the welfare of employees in the face of making slightly less money. CEOs are scumbags.

He wasn't the one made an unreasonably high minimum wage.

Also, we can't stop progress to save jobs. As time goes on machines will inevitably replace a lot of jobs. Not necessarily a terrible thing, with machines doing a lot of the work perhaps that will create an opportunity for more people to go to school to develop a career.

If businesses are making more money and employeeing less people I'm guessing they will get taxed more. Atleast I assume.

Replacing jobs with robots isn't progress, at least not the kind any economy needs. $15 is way too high to pay burger flippers, but $7.25 is too low to pay many other jobs that exploit minimum wage. The problem isn't the minimum wage, or the job itself: It's these giant collections of excrement called "CEOs" that would sooner put millions out of jobs than to take a 1% pay decrease. They continuously try to shift blame elsewhere, but at the end of every argument, they're the ones who decide what happens. Example of when companies do right by their employees, regardless of current minimum wages and laws: Hobby Lobby. 

 

Hobby Lobby pays part time employees $11 an hour, and it pays full time employees $15. All positions have room for raises, though there's a cap on how much a position can be paid. They offer reasonably priced benefits, and you get every Sunday off to go to church or, like me, not go to church. 

 

The problem is there are very few companies that recognize their employees as people. 



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theprof00 said:
Sooo, more jobs opening up for engineers and repairmen at 130$ an hour. Good trade-off I'd say

Considering what McDonalds does to teach it managment staff they will probally pour money into teaching some of the staff to fix the items themselves, or have a tech firm do it for them on the cheap like they do with all their other tech stuff. Trust me McDonald's Tech support and installers are horrid, but functionable.



LurkerJ said:

Foxconn replaces '60,000 factory workers with robots'

One factory has "reduced employee strength from 110,000 to 50,000 thanks to the introduction of robots", a government official told the South China Morning Post.

Jesus, and that was just posted today, almost as if in mockery of this discussion.



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Explanation for outsourcing.



A future where cooking is handled by robots is such a sad one... Guess I should start lubing up my ass to introduce my cooking course up my ass.



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WolfpackN64 said:
nanarchy said:

Then start a business and run it that way, no body is stopping you or anyone else from doing it. The reality is most business owners risk their entire financial futures and lives on their business and work insane hours for years to get them into a position where they are making large profits, many of which fail long before they even get their (part of the risk of running your own business), yes there are many CEO's that don't deserve what they earn but they are by far the minority. I think you will need to provide some proof/citations that cooperatives are better, as current evidence does not seem to support that.

Cooperatives don't produce as much economically since most aren't fully profit oriented. But less risky business practices also makes it so that cooperatives generally excist longer.

I only know of 3 cooperatives locally, all have gone bust. (one milk producer, a recycler and a clothing manufacturer). Cooperatives are generally too inflexible to survive in uncertain economic times (one of the reasons you don't see more of them), I am sure there are some success stories too but I doubt they outnumber the failures, when you run at lower profit margins a small downturn can mean the entire business goes broke.



nanarchy said:

I only know of 3 cooperatives locally, all have gone bust. (one milk producer, a recycler and a clothing manufacturer). Cooperatives are generally too inflexible to survive in uncertain economic times (one of the reasons you don't see more of them), I am sure there are some success stories too but I doubt they outnumber the failures, when you run at lower profit margins a small downturn can mean the entire business goes broke.

Of course they can go broke. But they generally do survive longer. Most hurdles are finding starting capital and trying to fend off sometimes agressive competition.



Azuren said:

Replacing jobs with robots isn't progress, at least not the kind any economy needs. $15 is way too high to pay burger flippers, but $7.25 is too low to pay many other jobs that exploit minimum wage. The problem isn't the minimum wage, or the job itself: It's these giant collections of excrement called "CEOs" that would sooner put millions out of jobs than to take a 1% pay decrease. They continuously try to shift blame elsewhere, but at the end of every argument, they're the ones who decide what happens. Example of when companies do right by their employees, regardless of current minimum wages and laws: Hobby Lobby. 

Hobby Lobby pays part time employees $11 an hour, and it pays full time employees $15. All positions have room for raises, though there's a cap on how much a position can be paid. They offer reasonably priced benefits, and you get every Sunday off to go to church or, like me, not go to church. 

The problem is there are very few companies that recognize their employees as people. 

Throughout the years technology has gotten rid of many job. Its not necessarily a bad thing, this why we dont spend our lives working on farms and instead do other tasks.

I think 7.25 is fine for a fast food job. Any employee worth something will get a raise to stay or move onto another job. This is why a very tiny percentage of this country makes minimum wage.

Companies pay CEOs a lot of money for reasons I dont understand. But hey, its their money. I'm more bothered by tax money being spent on things I dont support or encourages people to do nothing with their life.

I'd like to see many low skill jobs treat their employees better but thats a different discussion.



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