Agreed, I would say 4k is the new computer standard with some people wanting not one, but 3 4k monitors used together.

If not now, then soon.

Where did you get Spring from? I expect it sooner than that.

First of all the wait for the Big Pascal is a lot shorter than the wait from Big Pascal to Big Volta. I also expect a bigger performance increase from 1080 to Big Pascal than from 980ti to 1080, which is barely 20% on average at 1440p. When Big Pascal hits the market we won't know shit about Volta. So the perfect time to buy it.

But all that doesn't really matter since 1080 is just too small of an increase to make it worthwhile, especially because I plan to go SLI. Going SLI with sub High End is stupid. Big Pascal is the only sensible way to go unless you either got money to burn or need a new GPU right now.

The neverending cycle stops when I buy Pascal and then wait if Big Volta is good enough to upgrade.

it's only doing 20-30fps more in games/in settings you already get 90-100fps in with a 980 TI and there those extra fps are pretty much useless

however when a 980 Ti is doing 30-40fps and you really want extra performance a 1080 will only get you 6-12fps more - that's how percentages work

Don't spoil the fun with percentages. I will get 500 fps more on CS1.6 if I switch now from 980ti to 1080!

launch prices

Gtx 480 479€

Gtx 580 479€

Gtx 680 500€

Gtx 780 641€

Gtx 980 540€

Gtx 1080 789€

In terms of power consumption it looks like the card uses about the same as a standard GTX 980. That means roughly a 50% improvement in terms of performance per watt. So that's good news.

The bad news however is that while it's about 30% faster than a GTX 980 ti, it's also about 20% more expensive. So you only get a little bit more "bang for the buck". That's pretty dissappointing with a die size that's almost been cut in half.

I don't know where you live, but 600$ price tag is always without taxes while the € prices are most of the time with taxes. So in the end, +shipments the prices is kind of identical.

It's easier to see when comparing console prices

599$ without tax vs 599€ with tax.

I don't need to upgrade from 980ti just yet then.

Mantle was aborted? where do you think Vulkan and DX12 are coming from?

Anyhow... still waiting at the minimum for Vega... eyeing what Navi might be bringing to the table. Still rocking a 1080 144Hz monitor on a R9 290X OC, not reason enough to change yet. By the time some proper DX 12 and Vulkan games are out, together with improved drivers, we can have more apt comparisons. From what I read Nvidia is a few steps back in async compute compared to AMD and that will start showing later this year.

We will see...

Titans always release in Spring, I expect the new one to come out around March, that's 9 months from now, it is also expect that HBM2 is gonna be ready in Q1 2017. A few months after the new Titan I expect the 1080Ti when HBM2 becomes more readily available, kinda like how it went with big Maxwell.

Fact is you're not gonna see a new $599-699 level card from Nvidia until at least next year. The 1080 has a 30% performance increase compared to Titan X at 1440p as well, that's a lot, you're not gonna see a 50% boost over that with the 1080Ti. Hell, when was the last time you saw a 50% boost? The flagship Maxwell is also "only" 30% faster than the flagship Kepler.

If you have a 980ti, you should wait. But for those of us with a 970 or lower, it's a perfect upgrade that should last us until Volta.

Err that's only at 4K and the 1080 is bottlenecked by the memory. Disappointing for the tiny minority who game at 4K though. I think it's still 2 years too early to expect decent 4K60.