Never said anything else. 1080 is a great update to the 980 but not to the 980ti. I don't care a lot about price, so whichever Big Pascal is first I will get. And from 980ti to Big Pascal it's easily 50%, which is all I want.

Still, can't see a 600-700 Euro card to ever be "mainstream" for anything. That will be the 1070's role.

At what time is the AMD conference? I hope nVidia pressure makes them go for it!

Dat marketing...

'30%' sounds a lot better than '6-8 fps' in 4K...

Really curious how the 1070 will fare in 4K compared to the 1080 & 980Ti.

The 1070 is about as much a 4k card as the 980ti. It's not.

DX12 is still "meh", let's wait and see if it will do something for real or if Vulkan will be the real innovation. I don't think that people are being fair when comparing the 1080 with the 980ti and Titan X. It is the successor of the 980, so that's the real comparison. Is costs around half the price of a Titan and is 100 bucks cheaper than the 980ti while beating its performance.

AMD needs to improve their game. Too much games with performance problems on AMD GPUs. I know that Nvidia tries to screw AMD whenever they can, but they really need to create counter-measures because nobody wants to buy 500 bucks GPUs and keep having issues with gaming performance.

The 1080ti will probably be around 700 dollars. They increased the price of the x70 and x80 model slightly compared to the 900 series. It's expected that they will follow the same logic. Only the Titan will be above 1k.

I don't know man, the only 1080 we've seen thus far are the $699 Founder's Editions. At launch any quality overclocked card is probably going to capitalize around that pricepoint or just under.

I don't even want to know what the cheap $599 ones are going to look like. They'll look like the cheapest platic blower style shrounds resembling the barebone Nvidia cards of generations ago.

Frankly as 980 substitute it is overpriced. They are taking advantage in the gaps of competition in the market though since 980Ti's will disappear and in the time being it will be the best card around in the high end.

I'll probably stick with my card for at least another two years since it has plenty of power to max games in 1440p. Glad to see that things are finally starting to happen on the 4k front though, higher bandwith and memory size will certainly increase output even more this year and next!

Don't hold your breath, it will be 600-700 Euro in Europe, at least in the beginning.

No, the definitions won't change. Mainstream is what the vast majority has. It will either be the 1070 or an AMD card, considering their plan to go strong into mainstream VR. I see no reason why people with 1070 would think their cards are too weak to try VR.

Well i spoke to soon. :/

My 980Ti just sold on ebay, for asking price to boot...  i can't complain , i could've watched the market  bring it down below $400 in the coming weeks.

Hopefully a Superclocked ACX 1080 is not too far off ( I need a 10.6" or less card) . It looks like i'll be hunkering down and playing on console only for the next month.

I guess i havent ruled out a sidegrade of a 1070 either provided it performs similarly, if anything for the additional ram and driver support.

I really want the 1080Ti so this would be temporary anyways. Still , should be fun overclocking the piss out of the new architecture.

The only thing that's going to stop me getting one of these beauties in August is AMD releasing Vega in October, assuming that it's more of a Beast than the 1080.