People like quality. The fact is that physical media damages the quality of that platform. People will gladly give up that choice for a higher quality. The first iPod wasn't a CD player with MP3 built in. It was an MP3 player, and that's it. People didn't have a choice, and they loved it because it made the product better. And now Apple is Apple because they notoriously don't give people a choice. And they are always right in doing it and they are the biggest tech company in the world right now because they don't give consumers a choice when it hurts the quality of their products. Choice only matters to hippies. Quality of experience matters to everyone else.

The amount of people buying digital over physical on consoles grows every year, but even still you're inflating the issue of digital. My point has never been that there was some active movement for digital by a huge group of millenial hipsters. My point is that not having physical is not an purchase-stopping issue for anyone but collectors and... the opposite of millenial hipsters idk.

Steam sales definitely are overstated. eShop has plenty of sales that occur almost as frequently, and the only reason there aren't more is because there aren't enough third party games to make them.

I chuckled at you thinking that DS4's touchpad could do anything UI wise that's even remotely comparable to what Nintendo can do with a touch screen. They have the resources and experience now. They have DeNA, and they've proven to know what they are doing. Again, that's what DeNA were brought in for. Not mobile. Their UI and their backend and their platform, and they have NERD for their cloud stuff, another new partner of theirs. Making a UI comparable to Apple and Android isn't some difficult task. They already did most of the work. They just need someone who knows what they're doing, DeNA, to do it for them on NX.

What volume issues are you referring to? Last I heard Nintendo thinks they can sell 10m NX units in the first year. They've likely dialed back their expectations since then, but I'm sure they plan to have at least a couple million ready for launch and sell at least 5m in the first year.

Polaris 11 is intended to replace the $150-$180 line of AMD GPU's at retail, and since Nintendo is buying in bulk and AMD is desperate for deals right now, I'm sure Nintendo could have easily got a good deal on a custom Polaris 11 based APU. I think $300 is indeed possible for a theoretical NX using Polaris 11. I'm sure Nintendo knows it's suicide to release against PS4 with a poor price/performance ratio.

People like quality. The fact is that physical media damages the quality of that platform. People will gladly give up that choice for a higher quality. The first iPod wasn't a CD player with MP3 built in. It was an MP3 player, and that's it. People didn't have a choice, and they loved it because it made the product better. And now Apple is Apple because they notoriously don't give people a choice. And they are always right in doing it and they are the biggest tech company in the world right now because they don't give consumers a choice when it hurts the quality of their products. Choice only matters to hippies. Quality of experience matters to everyone else.

The amount of people buying digital over physical on consoles grows every year, but even still you're inflating the issue of digital. My point has never been that there was some active movement for digital by a huge group of millenial hipsters. My point is that not having physical is not an purchase-stopping issue for anyone but collectors and... the opposite of millenial hipsters idk.

Steam sales definitely are overstated. eShop has plenty of sales that occur almost as frequently, and the only reason there aren't more is because there aren't enough third party games to make them.

I chuckled at you thinking that DS4's touchpad could do anything UI wise that's even remotely comparable to what Nintendo can do with a touch screen. They have the resources and experience now. They have DeNA, and they've proven to know what they are doing. Again, that's what DeNA were brought in for. Not mobile. Their UI and their backend and their platform, and they have NERD for their cloud stuff, another new partner of theirs. Making a UI comparable to Apple and Android isn't some difficult task. They already did most of the work. They just need someone who knows what they're doing, DeNA, to do it for them on NX.

Because mainstream consumers aren't against going all-digital. That's your problem. You think an all digital console will cause this mass exodus. It won't. You think it's actually a negative point for enyone who doesn't frequent a gaming forum. It isn't. No one is as passionate about this non-issue as you are. No one but you is going to see the NX and go "humbug - they're FORCING digital on us." They'll go "oh wow, this thing is neat" and not even pay attention to the fact that it's digital only because, newsflash, everything is nowaways. People are used to all digital and have been for a decade. Nobody thinks about physical anymore outside of console gaming and nobody but the 2% will even notice when it's gone. NX will come out, will provide a user experience that is quicker, easier, more streamlined, and more modern than anything physical could ever achieve, and that will make physical media platforms like PS4 and XBO look completely obsolete by comparison. I guarantee you the PS4K2 and the XB3 will be digital only in response to the NX if they don't release a digital only revision of the PS4K and XB2 first. The equivalent of Blackberry releasing a touch screen phone after the iPhone.

And don't be mistaken - I have never once said that digital only would be the selling point. It's not. Digital only is merely a means to an end, but it is the means. People aren't going to want the NX because Nintendo markets it as digital only, because they won't market it as digital only, just like Apple doesn't market the iPad as digital only or the Apple TV as digital only. It's 2016 - that's not some out-there prospect anymore. Digital only is the means to that end. It's the glue that keeps it all together, not the product. Like I said, it's about UI, OS, firmware, the unified platform, and marketplace. That's the selling point. What's going to sell the NX is simply that it'll frankly be a better, more modern product than the PS4 or XBO are while still being on par. That's all that matters. PS4 is the Blackberry. NX is the iPhone.

They aren't the same now. The NX platform is going to change that. It will be the same as mobile platform in that specific way. That's a literal quote from Iwata. It will be like iOS and if you knew anything about those platforms, you'd know that they are tailor made to make scaling between hardware SKUs as seemless as possible. That's why the App Store is successful. It's easy to develope for on everything. That's the entire purpose of making this platform the way it is. To solve that issue. It doesn't matter if the handheld is way less powerful. That's the point of scaling down. The NXDS versions of games won't look as good as the console variations, and they won't need to. The smaller screen with higher pixel density as well as the law of diminishing returns makes up for the massive drop in resolution and asset quality, and all those extra recourses will be used to make the game look and run better. That's why Vita games looked comparable to PS3 games even though it was much weaker than the PS3. A sheild-level handheld running games at a 540p resolution would easily make games that look comparable to PS4/XBO/NX games. Easily. It doesn't need to be even remotely as powerful as those platforms to output comparable graphics. Again, that's just maths.

And calling the NXDS versions of games "worse versions" is an extremely disingenuious thing to say that erroniously dismisses the entire allure of handhelds. No one buying the NXDS cares that the versions are worse. No 3DS only owner cares that Smash 3DS is inferior to Smash Wii U. Still sold more copies. It's good enough. Looks good enough and runs well enough. That's going to be the case for like 90% of NX games. If Smash 3DS had cross buy/save/play with Smash Wii U, literally no one who owns both systems would give a flying shit that it was inferior, and those people would probably play it more. Nobody who likes handhelds cares that it doesn't run games at 1080p 60fps. That's not what they're for and no one will ever be disappointed in that. If someone owns both the NX and the NXDS and buys COD, you bet your ass they'll be excited to play it on their lunch break with the same save as the one they have are home without needing to think about it. That's a fucking dope luxury.

Of course the NX is going to have two screens. Both the handheld and the console will.

I can't believe what I'm reading in this next paragraph. To think that someone genuinely can't understand the concept of a coupon is baffling. My Nintendo rewards are merely a tool that makes buying software cheaper for dedicated users. They are independant of actual sales. Obviously. It's additive. I'm not going to explain to you the psychology of why this kind of thing works, but what I will say is that it's not this killer app for the platform. None of this stuff is. Everything combined is what will sell the NX, not one of the little things by themselves. No one is buying a PS4 because of PS+'s monthly subscription games for example, but that's obviously a system that adds percieved value to the ecosystem there. "PS4 gives you free games every month." Well, no it doesn't, but by that point the truth doesn't matter; the good PR has done its job in making the PS4 look like a better economic investment. That's what My Nintendo is doing, but rather than using a subscription based model, it's using a more active reward system. One that will undoubtably be integrated directly into the UI of the platform it was actually built to take advantage of. That's good because it makes every single purchase you make feel like a return on your investment towards more software. And software bought with coupons still reward points, which adds to that. Platinum Points are the same thing. The whole thing is meant to make the user feel like the entire NX ecosystem is a clockwork of ways to save the user money. That, in turn, becomes the identity of the NX eshop - its marketplace. That's why I compared it to Steam. When people think of Steam, they think of sales even though that's a gross eggaduration. My Nintendo is a program that allows Nintendo to cultivate that mindset with the NX eshop. Since the eshop will be the only marketplace for the NX, it will gain that same kind of identity. And that's on top of regular sales, which occur on a weekly basis. With a digital only platform, Nintendo has complete control of the consumers buying experience. That's a good thing for Nintendo, because they don't need to rely on retail chains to represent their games correctly. They advertise what they want in the way they want, and that's good, because they have their best interests in mind.

Also, get out of here with used games lmfao. Anyone who thinks that used games are what's going to stop the inevitable digital renaissance is out of touch with reality. It's a non-factor that only benefits Gamestop. PC gets along fine with no used games, and so will NX. There are a non-factor.

No, the best argument is "Look at how awesome and modern our platform is. Nintendo games, third party games, and the device is really good." Boring to type. Exciting to watch.

To end it, I'll just leave you with my favorite Miyamoto quote from E3 2014:

"So, particularly with digital downloads now and the idea that you're downloading the right to play a game, that opens up the ability to have multiple platform digital downloads where you can download on one and download on another. Certainly from a development standpoint there is some challenge to it, because if you have two devices that have different specs and you're being told to design in a way that the game runs on both devices, then that can be challenging for the developer—BUT if you have a more unified development environment and you're able to make one game that runs on both systems INSTEAD of having to make a game for each system, that's an area of opportunity for us." - Miyamoto with Kotaku

Yeah I agree. OS is not going to be a game changer. MS has basically an equivalent mobile OS as Apple/Google, even better in some ways to be honest, but no one buys a Windows Phone. Why? Because it doesn't have the same app ecosystem in variety that Apple or Android have.

Also really I mean, it's not like MS and Sony are stupid either. If Nintendo has some OS features that are really well done -- guess what? Sony/MS will copy them fairly quickly. You can't patent or copyright an OS feature.

And digital games ... so what? Who cares. You can buy every game digitally from Sony or MS already. So what if it's not as sleek of a service as Steam, it's more than functional enough to get gamers any game they desire easily enough.

If anyone else started really selling games because of an OS, it would be copied quickly. Even iOS was copied quickly by Google, Apple continues to sell big numbers because they have incredible marketing and brand prestige and their phones are top of the line in performance (something this NX is not even close to).

Yeah all the "All In One" XBox didn't do crap for the XBox this gen. They tried "Apple-ize" the console in a lot of ways and it failed miserably so they had to pivot away from it quickly. And MS is a huge OS creator, Nintendo is not creating something better with an employee size 1/10th of MS.

People just want a game console that has good technology in it for a reasonable price that plays a large breadth of software including all the top 3rd party content. And something that they also watch Netflix and Hulu and NFL/NBA/MLB League Pass on.

And that's it. All the crap about the console being the center of the living room and controlling your TV through the console and TV apps ... no one gives a shit about that. When people get into a living room they just want to relax and be entertained, it's the couch effect.