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Is waiting past E3 to reveal NX a good thing for Nintendo?

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Wyrdness on 12 May 2016
bigtakilla said:

Maybe not every fan, but the most watched game by the most people would be the world cup, or the super bowl, or stanley cup, ect. 

The tournament maybe but not each individual match.



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bigtakilla on 12 May 2016
Wyrdness said:
bigtakilla said:

Maybe not every fan, but the most watched game by the most people would be the world cup, or the super bowl, or stanley cup, ect. 

The tournament maybe but not each individual match.

Either way, it's the biggest event. Just like E3 is the biggest gaming event. The same amount of people might not tune in a day or two of the three, but still usually the most eyes are on companies at E3. 



bigtakilla on 12 May 2016
Soundwave said:

I think there's a misunderstanding about "hype" needing X amount of time to generate. As if you unveil longer before launch, you are guaranteed more hype. It doesn't work like this.

"Hype" comes from excitement about a product, excitement for a product only occurs if the product is worth being excited over in the first place.

If you have a great product that really impresses people, hype is the easiest part of the equation.

There was sky high hype for the N64, and really Nintendo only really formally unveiled the N64 seven months prior to its Japanese launch (November 1995 unveiling, June 1996 launch in Japan).

Hype is not the be-all, end-all, you need to have a very well thought out product that illicits a lot of value to the consumer.

Hype hasn't been Nintendo's problem. Not being able to relate to modern Western gamers that make up the bulk of the industry now, poor hardware decisions oand gambling on gimmicks to sell hardware, split development resources between home console and portables, and poor relationships with third parties are Nintendo's core problems, not hype.

But is their such a thing as something a lot of people not knowing about gaining a lot better hype and momentum over a period of time? Yes. This happens to movies all the time. Did you know the original Halloween was an absolute flop when it first hit theaters. No one was seeing it, but with word of mouth over a period of time it has become the highest grossing independant films of all time (maybe not anymore, but we are talking about 30 years and a growing movie audience, but it was for a LONG time). 



bunchanumbers on 12 May 2016

Skipping E3 is a smart move. They will end up stealing the shine from Neo and Nextbox when they have their own solo reveal later this year. If they revealed at E3 they'd be in direct competition with them. It would have been a mess. But with this its just them being able to show everything its capable of without Sony or MS trying to interfere.



bigtakilla on 12 May 2016
bunchanumbers said:
Skipping E3 is a smart move. They will end up stealing the shine from Neo and Nextbox when they have their own solo reveal later this year. If they revealed at E3 they'd be in direct competition with them. It would have been a mess. But with this its just them being able to show everything its capable of without Sony or MS trying to interfere.

So instead, they will wait a month or two, reveal it and then be crushed by the onslaught of advertisemants of the Nextbox and PS4 Neo and VR for holiday season 2016. 

Smart move?.....



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Soundwave on 12 May 2016
bigtakilla said:
Soundwave said:

I think there's a misunderstanding about "hype" needing X amount of time to generate. As if you unveil longer before launch, you are guaranteed more hype. It doesn't work like this.

"Hype" comes from excitement about a product, excitement for a product only occurs if the product is worth being excited over in the first place.

If you have a great product that really impresses people, hype is the easiest part of the equation.

There was sky high hype for the N64, and really Nintendo only really formally unveiled the N64 seven months prior to its Japanese launch (November 1995 unveiling, June 1996 launch in Japan).

Hype is not the be-all, end-all, you need to have a very well thought out product that illicits a lot of value to the consumer.

Hype hasn't been Nintendo's problem. Not being able to relate to modern Western gamers that make up the bulk of the industry now, poor hardware decisions oand gambling on gimmicks to sell hardware, split development resources between home console and portables, and poor relationships with third parties are Nintendo's core problems, not hype.

But is their such a thing as something a lot of people not knowing about gaining a lot better hype and momentum over a period of time? Yes. This happens to movies all the time. Did you know the original Halloween was an absolute flop when it first hit theaters. No one was seeing it, but with word of mouth over a period of time it has become the highest grossing independant films of all time (maybe not anymore, but we are talking about 30 years and a growing movie audience, but it was for a LONG time). 

The 1970s is a different period and it's not even like Halloween was some huge budget tent pole film to begin with.

We have the internet now, social networks like Facebook and Twitter, and hundreds of TV channels, information can consumed much more rapidly, you really only need a few months of real hype for anything and word of mouth spreads much faster these days.

Case in point ... a movie like Deadpool which is a really a C-tier Marvel franchise that most of the general public had no knowledge of a huge blockbuster with minimal pre-release hype.

If you have a great product that gets people excited the word will spread quickly. And quite frankly it's the same with most modern electronics, they're only unveiled usually a few months prior to launch.

 



zorg1000 on 12 May 2016
bigtakilla said:
bunchanumbers said:
Skipping E3 is a smart move. They will end up stealing the shine from Neo and Nextbox when they have their own solo reveal later this year. If they revealed at E3 they'd be in direct competition with them. It would have been a mess. But with this its just them being able to show everything its capable of without Sony or MS trying to interfere.

So instead, they will wait a month or two, reveal it and then be crushed by the onslaught of advertisemants of the Nextbox and PS4 Neo and VR for holiday season 2016. 

Smart move?.....

Neo/XB1.5/VR take away attention from NX when it has its own show than wont they also take attention away from NX at E3? If thats the case than it doesnt matter when its revealed and they should do it when they are most comfortable revealing it.



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Nem on 12 May 2016

"holding off"

lol


What makes you think they are doing that? It's simply not ready.



Soundwave on 12 May 2016
bigtakilla said:
Soundwave said:

I think there's a misunderstanding about "hype" needing X amount of time to generate. As if you unveil longer before launch, you are guaranteed more hype. It doesn't work like this.

"Hype" comes from excitement about a product, excitement for a product only occurs if the product is worth being excited over in the first place.

If you have a great product that really impresses people, hype is the easiest part of the equation.

There was sky high hype for the N64, and really Nintendo only really formally unveiled the N64 seven months prior to its Japanese launch (November 1995 unveiling, June 1996 launch in Japan).

Hype is not the be-all, end-all, you need to have a very well thought out product that illicits a lot of value to the consumer.

Hype hasn't been Nintendo's problem. Not being able to relate to modern Western gamers that make up the bulk of the industry now, poor hardware decisions oand gambling on gimmicks to sell hardware, split development resources between home console and portables, and poor relationships with third parties are Nintendo's core problems, not hype.

But is their such a thing as something a lot of people not knowing about gaining a lot better hype and momentum over a period of time? Yes. This happens to movies all the time. Did you know the original Halloween was an absolute flop when it first hit theaters. No one was seeing it, but with word of mouth over a period of time it has become the highest grossing independant films of all time (maybe not anymore, but we are talking about 30 years and a growing movie audience, but it was for a LONG time). 

The 1970s is a different period and it's not even like Halloween was some huge budget tent pole film to begin with.

We have the internet now, social networks like Facebook and Twitter, and hundreds of TV channels, information can consumed much more rapidly, you really only need a few months of real hype for anything and word of mouth spreads much faster these days.

Case in point ... a movie like Deadpool which is a really a C-tier Marvel franchise that most of the general public had no knowledge of a huge blockbuster with minimal pre-release hype.

If you have a great product that gets people excited the word will spread quickly. And quite frankly it's the same with most modern electronics, they're only unveiled usually a few months prior to launch.

Nintendo's issues are much more related to their general lack of understanding of the modern Western market and their lack of ability to connect to modern audiences. That's more the issue than hype, there will be a decent amount of hype from game nerds just because it has a Zelda game at launch pretty with nice graphics. Hardware design philosophy, third party relationships, new breakthrough IPs that bring in new audiences are where NX will sink or swim long term though.



Wyrdness on 12 May 2016
bigtakilla said:

Either way, it's the biggest event. Just like E3 is the biggest gaming event. The same amount of people might not tune in a day or two of the three, but still usually the most eyes are on companies at E3. 

Biggest event doesn't neccessarily mean best event, most eyes may be on the event but then the are more companies, announcments and so on to compete with.

Not aimed at you but the problem with people on forums and those harping on about E3 is that most of this mob ironically fail to acknowledge the times have changed around them (a criticism they aim at Nintendo), E3 itself is not needed to generate interest as we've entered the age of on the fly streaming and social media.