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Forums - Gaming - Verified NeoGAF member has posted a bunch of NX leaks. Now updated with gimmicks, Luigi's Mansion and other stuff

Frogger on 16 April 2016
Soundwave said:

I think to understand the SCD you need to understand the Japanese market first and foremost.

In Japan there is higher speed internet (fiber optic) because it's such a small country and much easier for Nintendo to distribute servers country wide. Homes are also just naturally closer together.

So the SCD concept could work fairly easily there, especially if the portable is more common place. People who buy the SCD get bonuses like free Nintendo points and possibly free games if they buy the SCD and other people utilize the power of it.

That's right in the patent. That means for Nintendo this could be a cheap way to make sure buyers who only purchase the portable version of NX can still enjoy the higher end console graphics while at home by being able to "borrow" horsepower from nearby SCD units.

In the US/Europe, SCD would likely be more of just a standard add-on for those who want it and be their answer to the PS4K issue. Nothing wrong with that either.

The NXDS should be able to handle console level visuals even without the SCD, so it would only serve as an improvement.

Something about the SCD concept you're not talking about is the fact that they would connect with each other forming a network of computing power which grows in power the more SCDs are available. So it wouldn't just be a standard add on in the West. It would work just the same as in Japan, only it would benefit from every SCD sold there with more computing power available.



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Frogger on 16 April 2016
DevilRising said:
NeoGAF is hardly a "reputable source" for anything more than pure rumor and speculation.

Having said that, I still think the concept of one unified portable/home console system, makes sense and if done right could be a really good idea, so I hope that is true.

They are literally one of the mort consistantly reputable sources of leaked information on video games in the industry. If something is verified by Neogaf, more often than not it's going to be true.



Proxy-Pie on 16 April 2016

It's a good thing forum-goers aren't in charge of the big companies, otherwise we'd be seeing bankruptcies left and right.



Keybladewielder on 17 April 2016

Luigi's Mansion 3 and FFXV!?. Please be true please be true. I wonder how are the chances that NX will get Kingom Hearts 3. All these rumors are so hyping and I hope the ones in the OP are true, it would be amazing tbqh



nomad on 17 April 2016
spemanig said:

One thing that wasn't mentioned in that podcast was how reliant each individual SCD is on your internet connection. This is obvious, but if your internet connection is shit, your experience with it will be much worse, and those connected to you SCD will have a worse experience too. Think about it. When the host for a server on an online game has a shitty connection, everyone suffers. Same concept, only it effects the quality of the extra computing power you get.

Reading this patent more, the only way I can see this being marketed is in a similar way that a router is, except you WANT to share it. But I don't think this as being something most people are expected to own. The point have the few build this infrastructure for Nintendo, something that is kind of scummy, if you think about it. It's kind of their way of deferring the costs of maintaining dedicated servers to the end user. But this thing is really for adding computational power to the games that talk advantage of it. I assume that all games would run without it, but I can't even fathom how much the experience would improve if an infrastructure like this was built successfully.

You are dependant on your internet connection but will not necessarily be dependant on yours. That's one of the things SCD suppose to solve. Their console will have many SCDs to choose from to get the best results and yours will be delegated to complete task best suited for your connection.

It's one solution to some inherent problems with cloud gaming, like your host server example. The more centralized your server is the more people will be affected by latency, bandwidth, maintenance, failures, etc. People across the country or globe will have latency problems, bandwith to share, everyone experiences the same hiccups, etc. Distributed servers can help with those, but will also cost more. Nintendo's solution is even more highly decentralized or highly distributed. Sure it defers cost to consumers and you may think it's kind of scummy, but compare that with subscription based cloud services. It's not too different except you will actually own something physically.



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Frogger on 17 April 2016
nomad said:

You are dependant on your internet connection but will not necessarily be dependant on yours. That's one of the things SCD suppose to solve. Their console will have many SCDs to choose from to get the best results and yours will be delegated to complete task best suited for your connection.

It's one solution to some inherent problems with cloud gaming, like your host server example. The more centralized your server is the more people will be affected by latency, bandwidth, maintenance, failures, etc. People across the country or globe will have latency problems, bandwith to share, everyone experiences the same hiccups, etc. Distributed servers can help with those, but will also cost more. Nintendo's solution is even more highly decentralized or highly distributed. Sure it defers cost to consumers and you may think it's kind of scummy, but compare that with subscription based cloud services. It's not too different except you will actually own something physically.

No, trust me, I think it's an awesome idea. I do think it's scummy, but in a brilliant business move kind of way. I'll gladly buy one of these if it becomes real. I think a lot of the rewarding they plan to do will offset a lot of that scumminess anyway.

Yeah I understanf that people without SCDs will have multiple SCDs to chose from. I'm just saying that if I have a bad internet connection and someone uses mine, the my SCD will do less for them than one with a good connection. I was just trying to paint a picture since those guys didn't.

It was also made clear to me that Nintendo would still need cloud servers indepentant of these to save things like your account information and save data.



archbrix on 17 April 2016
RolStoppable said:
spemanig said:

Some people would, and that's all that needs to happen for it to be successful. It's just the beginning.

Sure...

Every time a company has a grand vision for a video game console and passes on high costs to consumers, said vision crashes and burns, and the company backpedals or abandons it.

We don't yet know how much the SCDs would run.  I seriously doubt they'd be five hundred and ninety nine US dollars.

But the beauty of it is that not every NX user would necessarily have to own an SCD to be able to take advantage of what they do.



brainteeth on 17 April 2016

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Soundwave on 17 April 2016
RolStoppable said:
archbrix said:

We don't yet know how much the SCDs would run.  I seriously doubt they'd be five hundred and ninety nine US dollars.

But the beauty of it is that not every NX user would necessarily have to own an SCD to be able to take advantage of what they do.

An SCD would be a separate piece of hardware, basically an add-on for your console. Even at $100 it wouldn't be worth it for most people. I would even say that most people wouldn't be interested in using the SCDs of other people.

What practical use is expected from an SCD anyway? Marginally better graphics? Please...

No says anyone has to buy a SCD. It's for people who perhaps want resolutions above 1080P or own the portable NX and in that case it could be a cheaper way for them to get the console quality experience at home should they later decide they want that. 

For people who buy the SCD and its used as a cloud device by nearby users, they get rewards and points (free games, bonuses, etc.) for basically acting as a server for Nintendo.

I don't really see the problem here. If you don't think it's worth even $100 ... don't buy it. Upgradable hardware is simply smart too given that at some point NX is going to have to compete against the PS5/XB2 no matter what. 



zorg1000 on 17 April 2016
RolStoppable said:
archbrix said:

We don't yet know how much the SCDs would run.  I seriously doubt they'd be five hundred and ninety nine US dollars.

But the beauty of it is that not every NX user would necessarily have to own an SCD to be able to take advantage of what they do.

An SCD would be a separate piece of hardware, basically an add-on for your console. Even at $100 it wouldn't be worth it for most people. I would even say that most people wouldn't be interested in using the SCDs of other people.

What practical use is expected from an SCD anyway? Marginally better graphics? Please...

It doesnt have to be just for graphics, it could be for general performance.

For example, there could be a game that is pretty graphically intensive, lets say a mainline Zelda, that runs perfectly fine on the console version of NX. Well perhaps that game has a choppy frame rate on the portable NX, being linked to an SCD could give it a stable frame rate.

Sorta like Hyrule Warriors Legends on 3DS/N3DS.



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