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Wright said:
TheLegendofDS said:

Matsuka is an artist for the series and Sakumoto is the co-creater of the series so the creators word is much more relevant and important to the seies than the artist but hey you are free to believe in any fantasies that you wish so don't spread it like it's the truth

 

The artist that made possible the character. In Japanese gaming development, artists are widely-regarded as a vital component of the team. There's the reason why the main Final Fantasy 7 artist ended up being the director of the following games.

You were quoting the Wiki like it was the complete truth, but now you're disregarding it altogether because the Wiki itself states that there's a debate about it.

I'm not desregarding the Wiki, but it doesn't matter what the artist said and how relevant they are in Japan since has far as I know no artist has been a director in Metroid game and this guy even a director in a Nintendo game, so the debate shouldn't exist in the first place since the creator said that she wasn't.Also I find it hillarious that SJWs are now trying to make one of the first big female characters in videogmes into a dude and then ask for more females in games.



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Platina said:
All these rumors are fine with me if they come true.. would have preferred Zelda U to stay Wii U exclusive, but it's becoming apparent that it will most likely get a NX port

May I ask why??



TheLegendofDS said:

I'm not desregarding the Wiki, but it doesn't matter what the artist said and how relevant they are in Japan since has far as I know no artist has been a director in Metroid game and this guy even a director in a Nintendo game, so the debate shouldn't exist in the first place since the creator said that she wasn't.Also I find it hillarious that SJWs are now trying to make one of the first big female characters in videogmes into a dude and then ask for more females in games.

 

Why doesn't it matter whenever it doesn't suit your arguments?

But we've gone way too off-topic at this point, so I won't discuss this further. Unless you want to PM me, we can keep talking about this there.



Volterra_90 said:

Yes, she is really trustworthy, so I'm willing to believe this is true. About female Link, I think that it should be done so I'm happy with it, although I really understand the reservations about it. For me, Link is an avatar for the player, although not many would agree with that. It's just the way I play Zelda games, I feel that I'm Link. So if I was a female, I'd like to play as a female avatar. And it works on the Zelda lore. I think in SS Demise said something like he condemned all Zelda/Link blood line to a cycle of fight and reborn? Or was it reincarnation? I can't really remember.

To the post above, no, revolution doesn't mean to break all traditions, but some dated traditions must be broken to adapt the franchise to modern times. Voice acting is one of them I think. Female Link, okay, that's different and it's up to interpretations, and I understand every point of view about it. It's not necessary, but I think it's a nice change.

I don't see Link as an avatar, this gets on my nerves. He has a distinct and consistent personality across every game, and his differences in appearence are due to the artstyle, an artistic interpretation of the events taking place completely external and independant of how the characters are actually experiencing that world. If every Zelda game was made in the same art style, every Link would look exactly the same. The franchise does not work under the traditional rules of reincarnation, so the traditional allowances of of reincarnation should not apply. It's not up to interpretation. That's how the franchise has factually been created in practice, whether intentional or not, since they had enough technology to give him a personality. Link being a male is not a tradition, it is a fundimental canon of the world of Zelda. As fundemental as Zelda being a girl and Ganon being a man-pig.

That being said, of all offenses this game could have pulled, an option to play as a Link genderswap, something that is absolutely not canon as far as I'm concerned, is as small as they get. The confirmation of VA more than makes up for it. They could allow an option for a Goron Link now for all I care.



ktay95 said:
Platina said:
All these rumors are fine with me if they come true.. would have preferred Zelda U to stay Wii U exclusive, but it's becoming apparent that it will most likely get a NX port

May I ask why??

Compromising

If it was an exclusive, then they will be able to spend more time with just one game to polish it and maybe and some features in. May not be true, but they could possibly add some features that are exclusive for the NX to make it more enticing



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Wright said:
TheLegendofDS said:

I'm not desregarding the Wiki, but it doesn't matter what the artist said and how relevant they are in Japan since has far as I know no artist has been a director in Metroid game and this guy even a director in a Nintendo game, so the debate shouldn't exist in the first place since the creator said that she wasn't.Also I find it hillarious that SJWs are now trying to make one of the first big female characters in videogmes into a dude and then ask for more females in games.

 

Why doesn't it matter whenever it doesn't suit your arguments?

But we've gone way too off-topic at this point, so I won't discuss this further. Unless you want to PM me, we can keep talking about this there.

I will end this discussion with this: the creator said she wasn't that is why I disregard the artist since the creator has the final word



Zelda U on NX should surprise no one. Voice acting is amazing and hopefully is well done. Being able to play as female Link is ok I guess, feels like an unnecessary adition.



                                                                                     

Nautilus said:

Now you are starting to talk nonsense.Why would I be mad with a Hero mode?I just said that I find Zelda games too easy.Having a harder mode would be great.I mean, the problem with Zelda difficulty in general is not only the ammount of damage or health that you have, but the design itself.Im currently playing through A Link To The Past now, and lord gracious, it is MUCH harder than other zelda games.Not only you have less health in general and enemies does more damage, but you need much more skill than in lets say OOT, Wind Waker or even A Link Betwenn Worlds.If you want to appeal to a more casual audience it WILL come at a cost.After all, you cant just put the desing of the game into easy mode and make a labyrinth into a straight line without fundamentally changing the game.The same would apply to Dark Souls.Dark Souls is not only hard because of the amount of damage that you receive.Its designed from the ground up to be hard, from the positioning of enemies to the how the envirioment if done itself.You cant tone down everything, unless you essentially make a new game altogether.

And I dont get mad with changes.I welcome changes.What I get mad at, which seems that you didnt get quite well, are with changes that are completely unnecessary, or that just have a much better solution.The jump from 2D Zelda for 3D was wonderful.Did it break the tradition?Of course.All games so far were 2D.But it was a wonderful change.And 2D Zelda games kept being made.Spin-off games, more than welcoming.While I dont like musou games, Hyrule Warriors is a good game.(Im completely fine with Linkle in that game for example.Because, you know, she is not Link and is a completely new caracther)

Spoilers for OOT ahead:

And there is one bad scenario In a Zelda game, even though it is never shown.In OOT, in one of the possible futures, Link is defeated by Ganondorf, which leads to the games like Zelda I, Zelda II and so on.And I found that explanation quite good to be honest.

Not only that, but having multiple genders for the main caracthers(Not being a fixed one) can result in a weaker story( I emphasize that can).Unless you invest more than you need, your dialogue will need to be more vague, since you could be either a boy or a girl, so the option to make romantic interests could be severely limited for example.Unless again, you make different dialogues for different genders, but that would need a higher investment for the game, and may give problems to the overall story of the franchise, since Nintendo would need to determine which would be canon and not.Like I said, giving the games more "choices" can come with sacrifices, or consequences, in other areas.Its not as simple as you want to think.

What pisses me is doing changes for the sake of changes.Making a female Link will gain nothing, and will just make fans angry.Sure Nintendo could just do it anyway, but why the hell will it do something considered by many negative when there is a better solution elsewhere?

 

Dark Souls easy mode would simply boost your character and completely nerf the enemies. There's no need to revoke anything else from the dungeon design or enemy placement. A lot of mods allow to do that on the PC version, and people who demanded a casual version downloaded them and beat the game. See? It wasn't that hard, was it? Sure, IMO, the game is much boring that way, but if they managed to enjoy it, more power to them.

You want a harder mode for Zelda games, but I'm fairly sure some people find Zelda games too hard already and would like an easier mode. Why do you get your wish but they don't? No problem, just don't mind when people who like a Female Zelda gets their wish. Not the case, you're angry at it for some reason.

You're just worried about the writting not being on par, but don't you trust Nintendo into making a quality product? So what's the problem them? Don't worry about the story being weaker, if they're including more options they are already aware of the issue.

And you're wrong. Making female Link doesn't make fans angry. I'm a The Legend of Zelda fan and I actually love that Nintendo is giving me the option to play as a female character, whether a new one or a female version of Link. You just can't generalize to twist your argument in your favor.

 

About the Samus thing, I think we've gone way too off-topic at this point. If you want we can continue the conversation via PM.



TheLegendofDS said:

I will end this discussion with this: the creator said she wasn't that is why I disregard the artist since the creator has the final word

 

Again, if you want to go on with the discussion, just send me a PM. Because saying you will end things when the final word isn't satisfactory to both discussing parties doesn't help at all.



zorg1000 said:

like i said a few posts back, dual worlds is a common theme in Zelda, Light/Dark, Future/Past, etc. It could simply be that the opposite world in this game has the characters switch gender.

If this was true, I'd be fine. If there was a narrative or mechanical justification like this, and if it was good and well implemented, I'd be fine with this.