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Will Quantum Break outsell (lifetime on Xbox One) The Order: 1886?

Yes 154 36.58%
 
No 167 39.67%
 
Too close to call 54 12.83%
 
See results 46 10.93%
 
Total:421
Blob on 06 April 2016
GribbleGrunger said:
Blob said:

 

So my playthrough of the order on hard was 5 and a half hours. My playthrough of quantom break on normal was 9 hours and 50 minutes. While almost ten hours is on the shorter side, there is short, and then there's the order...  

Is the series attached to it a high quality? I've seen one episode and it wasn't too bad.

 

It's quite good, hardly a 'series' though, more or less just extended, very well done, cutscenes that tell the story of other characters other than the playable one. The whole game could probably have been a TV series and sufficed. As it stands currently, I find the whole half game/half show concept a bit pointless when you could probably just do one or the other. 



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barneystinson69 on 06 April 2016
GribbleGrunger said:

I have to ask: considering Quantum Break is as short as The Order, where are all the articles about this? It just goes to show how the media either get behind a title or not and the reason I take absolutely no notice of them, and neither should you.

The order was around 6 hours with cutscene's, and had terrible replay value. QB is short, but its still around 10hrs with everything from what I've heard, and has far better replay value. Will be trying it out today.



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Mr Puggsly on 06 April 2016
Blob said:
GribbleGrunger said:

Is the series attached to it a high quality? I've seen one episode and it wasn't too bad.

 

It's quite good, hardly a 'series' though, more or less just extended, very well done, cutscenes that tell the story of other characters other than the playable one. The whole game could probably have been a TV series and sufficed. As it stands currently, I find the whole half game/half show concept a bit pointless when you could probably just do one or the other. 

Well its not half show when you consider the live show is significantly less than half the game.

To me the live show just feels like an experiment. Not necessary, but it came out well and more compelling than cutscenes in most games. TV shows like this often dont move as quickly.



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KiigelHeart on 06 April 2016

I thought tv-show worked well with the game. Playing a video game and then watching the show made the story and characters feel more alive and real, in a bizarre way. Not to mention how much depth it added to Paul Serene and other "bad guys". Might have been an experiment but a very successful one.



walsufnir on 06 April 2016

The Order didn't get good reviews because it wasn't a good game.
And the game got hit because of its length because people questioned that it is that short. This resulted in people on GAF saying “it took me ten hours because I've taken my time with it“ while there was a complete and legit YouTube walkthrough showing everything and showed how short it really is.
But the length wasn't the only problem of the order, but one of the issues that most talked about because it was a discussion where one side had facts and the other side had an opinion.



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Mr Puggsly on 06 April 2016
barneystinson69 said:
GribbleGrunger said:

I have to ask: considering Quantum Break is as short as The Order, where are all the articles about this? It just goes to show how the media either get behind a title or not and the reason I take absolutely no notice of them, and neither should you.

The order was around 6 hours with cutscene's, and had terrible replay value. QB is short, but its still around 10hrs with everything from what I've heard, and has far better replay value. Will be trying it out today.

As someone who owns and completed The Order, I can tell you that game is shit for replay value. Exploration feels pointless and the object lying around add little to the story. You cant even skip the cutscenes which deters you from playing it again for the above average gun play.

I've play the first two acts of Quantum Break and its much more satisfying. I genuinely want to replay levels to find things I missed and will likely start a new game to make different story choices. No need to even compare the two games. QB deliverers a much better experience. I could stop playing now and its a better experience than The Order.



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Mr Puggsly on 06 April 2016
walsufnir said:
The Order didn't get good reviews because it wasn't a good game.
And the game got hit because of its length because people questioned that it is that short. This resulted in people on GAF saying “it took me ten hours because I've taken my time with it“ while there was a complete and legit YouTube walkthrough showing everything and showed how short it really is.
But the length wasn't the only problem of the order, but one of the issues that most talked about because it was a discussion where one side had facts and the other side had an opinion.

People always mention length when talking about The Order but its biggest problem is its boring. The gun play is good, but outside of that the game painfully average and the cutscenes are just boring for the most part. Adding more length to an already boring experience isnt going to save it.

If it was a fun game I guarantee people would ignore how short it is. A game like Vanquish is still praised inspite of being a short game.



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LudicrousSpeed on 06 April 2016

QB meta might have been lower than expected, but were talking like 2-7 points off where a lot predicted. The Order on the other hand was a complete dud and was way lower than expected. I agree with people saying the comparison doesn't make sense.



konkari on 06 April 2016

The Order and Quantum Break both try out some new approaches into gaming, and so far this strategy has not paid off in terms commercial success. Some other games with the same dilemma are Heavy Rain and Beyond Two Souls. At least Two Souls got good reviews but sold about the same as The Order.

I would not call selling beyond 1,5 million as poor, but as you rightly say, expectations were higher.

 

 



ArchangelMadzz on 06 April 2016
Mr Puggsly said:
Blob said:

 

It's quite good, hardly a 'series' though, more or less just extended, very well done, cutscenes that tell the story of other characters other than the playable one. The whole game could probably have been a TV series and sufficed. As it stands currently, I find the whole half game/half show concept a bit pointless when you could probably just do one or the other. 

Well its not half show when you consider the live show is significantly less than half the game.

To me the live show just feels like an experiment. Not necessary, but it came out well and more compelling than cutscenes in most games. TV shows like this often dont move as quickly.

Hell yeah, most games just don't know how to do cutscenes. Also most games don't need them, TLOU and Uncharted are some of the only games that cutscenes work really well.

Far cry is another, but they're not necessarily needed, I don't remember there being many cutscenes in Tomb Raider (2013) but I was still engrossed in the story. But it's nice to see another approach to something most devs get wrong. 



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