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Back in the mid 1990s PC Gaming and Console Gaming weren't as in common with each other than they are today. More complicated game genres like RTS, FPS and Simulators tended to be on PC, while arcade style game genres like Platformers, Puzzle, and Sports were on Console. In addition console gaming was considered to be "for kids" and PC gaming "for adults".

The Original Xbox was the system that changed all that. If you have a look at the gaming landscape before and after the Xbox you'll see before there were very few ports of PC games to consoles. After Xbox, games released on PC and Consoles simultaneously. Part of the reason was that the Xbox had a lot in common with the PC so porting games were easy, and the other reason was that young adults started playing on consoles as well, especially with games like Halo 2.

SEGA released a bunch of their Saturn games on PC and I still have them on my shelf. From a gameplay and graphical point of view they play and look almost exactly the same, but are less fun in general because in the 1990s game controllers for PC were absolutely dire, limited to 4 face buttons and a D-Pad or Joystick, with next to no emphasis on ergonomics. Not like today when you can connect an Xbox 360 controller to a PC (which is what I do) and have an identical gaming experience.



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Because Sega did what Nintendidn't.



Swordmasterman said:
Nautilus said:
There was no internet back then.Conundrum solved.

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My (locked) thread about how difficulty should be a decision for the developers, not the gamers.

https://gamrconnect.vgchartz.com/thread.php?id=241866&page=1

The PC and console markets are very different today and mostly cater to different gamers. But it was even more of the case back then. Mostly because consoles for the most part couldn't play a lot of the genres PC's could handle.

As for "backlash", there were a lot less console warriors back then and no Internets for them to come to so they could bitch about stupid things.



I'm pretty sure this claim isn't true. SEGA games only came to the PC much later than the console versions.

 

Yeah i'm double checking. 2 years later for panzer dragoon, 3 years later for virtua fighter, Sonic cd 3 years. I don't think that is comparable to what people are angry about with microsoft. 

These were also software releases that didn't get much advertisement at all.

BasilZero said:
The Fury said:

Different Era... less internet/voices.

 

This.

 

Back then it wasnt such a issue at all.

 

The reason why there's a backlash is the same reason why people call 911 when they cant even get on Facebook. People are stupid.

I don't agree with this at all. People weren't stupid back then, nor was SEGA. Having a gaming PC wasn't a common thing back then, to even be able to run those games. Their releases weren't advertised and came 1 to 3 years later when no one cared anymore cause there were newer and more exciting things coming.

Now, i will agree that theres lots of entitled and outspoken people today, especially the younger ones, but what Microsoft is doing with the X1 is totally different. Its releasing exclusives simultaneously on the PC. And that isn't a smart strategy at all unless they plan to abandon the system, because anyone informed who has a PC, will have no reason to buy an X1. The system also loses value in the eyes of the average consumer when it loses its diferentiating factors.

So... its not all about QQ, people ate this crap before. No, they didn't. And Sega didnt try anything of the sort.



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Nem said:

I'm pretty sure this claim isn't true. SEGA games only came to the PC much later than the console versions.

 

Yeah i'm double checking. 2 years later for panzer dragoon, 3 years later for virtua fighter, Sonic cd 3 years. I don't think that is comparable to what people are angry about with microsoft. 

These were also software releases that didn't get much advertisement at all.

...

Now, i will agree that theres lots of entitled and outspoken people today, especially the younger ones, but what Microsoft is doing with the X1 is totally different. Its releasing exclusives simultaneously on the PC. And that isn't a smart strategy at all unless they plan to abandon the system, because anyone informed who has a PC, will have no reason to buy an X1. The system also loses value in the eyes of the average consumer when it loses its diferentiating factors.

So... its not all about QQ, people ate this crap before. No, they didn't. And Sega didnt try anything of the sort.

 

This is correct. I bought Sonic CD for PC when it came out, well after the Sega CD died.



Here's a question. Was their a huge backlash when Halo 1 or 2 came to PC? At that point, the Internet was nearly what it is today. Minus social media.

Nem said:
 

Its releasing exclusives simultaneously on the PC. And that isn't a smart strategy at all unless they plan to abandon the system, because anyone informed who has a PC, will have no reason to buy an X1. The system also loses value in the eyes of the average consumer when it loses its diferentiating factors.

I don't argree with this. If PC had this power. Then consoles wouldn't really be here now. The value of a console is the ease of use. That is why people will buy them. Unless they end up turning into PC's. Then they become moot. I didn't go and buy any Xbox for Halo. I just got them on PC. And when they stopped. I never played the rest. It didn't convince me to buy the systems. Same will go towards the reverse. But having both options. Would just get MS more money. Now, for me. I still won't bother, if the rest of Halo is ported to PC. Because, they'll lock the games to the 10 store. I didn't buy H2 PC, till last year. Again, not worth my time to change my work PC, to play that one series.



Nem nailed it. The two situations aren't comparable. Great post.



archer9234 said:

Here's a question. Was their a huge backlash when Halo 1 or 2 came to PC? At that point, the Internet was nearly what it is today. Minus social media.

Nem said:

Its releasing exclusives simultaneously on the PC. And that isn't a smart strategy at all unless they plan to abandon the system, because anyone informed who has a PC, will have no reason to buy an X1. The system also loses value in the eyes of the average consumer when it loses its diferentiating factors.

I don't argree with this. If PC had this power. Then consoles wouldn't really be here now. The value of a console is the ease of use. That is why people will buy them. Unless they end up turning into PC's. Then they become moot. I didn't go and buy any Xbox for Halo. I just got them on PC. And when they stopped. I never played the rest. It didn't convince me to buy the systems. Same will go towards the reverse. But having both options. Would just get MS more money. Now, for me. I still won't bother, if the rest of Halo is ported to PC. Because, they'll lock the games to the 10 store. I didn't buy H2 PC, till last year. Again, not worth my time to change my work PC, to play that one series.

I Disagree, People purchase consoles because of the games, if all the games are somewhere else, they will just stick with it, what is the point to Upgrade into a New Console, when you can play all the Games of the Console, Plus the PC Games, with the same Money ?, and Microsoft, don't get more money for Releasing games for PC, unless Xbox One's Sales are really bad, they lose a lot of Potentially users, that would purchase games for the system, and would pay for Live Subscription, that would  be guaranted Money, because Multiplataform games would sell much more on Xbox One, than on Windows Store, more licesing money for Microsoft, people will only purchase exclusives from the Windows Store, but they will purchase all the other games from Steam, because Windows 10, isn't a Plataform, is just a OS, within the PC Plataform, and is just a Store, people can use EA, Square Enix, Ubisoft, Steam, and Microsoft's Store, in the same device.

Alan Wake, sold 1.3-1.5 Millions on PC, a little more than on Xbox 360, if the game was Exclusive for Xbox One, would move Much more Hardware, if just 10% of those people purchase the Xbox One, because of the game, already would be worth it, i really don't understand Why Microsoft, is releasing all their games on PC, they are Down YOY, so this shows that those  releases for PC, isn't helping Xbox One.



Maybe people didn't know that Sega would eventually die out, haha...

 

Oh, there's also that Sega consoles still have a lot of good exclusive games on their consoles. Having a few on PC  didn't seem harmful to them.



 

              

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