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Iyasu on 28 April 2016
Einsam_Delphin said:
Wright said:

C'mon. I don't find anything bad in reveling on the victory per se. I know I would had I won. :P

 

Unless they're reveling on it for the wrong reasons like the poster above you.

I think he's just teasing.

It looked very likely that the NX would come out in 2016, so likely that I was really close to switching camps.
I don't think anyone who voted one way or another is stupid for guessing that way.

Btw. my first thought was that holiday 2016 just wasn't enough time for a new console. I didn't even think about when in 2017 it would release, just that it wouldn't be in 2016.



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Lonely_Dolphin on 28 April 2016
Iyasu said:

I think he's just teasing.

It looked very likely that the NX would come out in 2016, so likely that I was really close to switching camps.
I don't think anyone who voted one way or another is stupid for guessing that way.

Btw. my first thought was that holiday 2016 just wasn't enough time for a new console. I didn't even think about when in 2017 it would release, just that it wouldn't be in 2016.

 

Yeah I know, I was just too lazy to find a Gamemaster post. :L



Iyasu on 28 April 2016
curl-6 said:

Because it can barely be called victory really.

The hopes of the 2017 crowd were pinned on Wii U getting another year of support. Clearly, that isn't happening. Hence, all that was really won was a bet on an internet forum. If you were hoping for 12 more months of software support (which honestly was never going to happen) that's a poor consolation prize.

Ultimately, we all lost.

I'd like to point out, that I also bet on 2017 , and I can't recall ever thinking that the Wii U is going to have another great year full of support.

I'll turn it around:
I think some people of the 2016 group were to overzelous to replace the Wii U, and ignored that it takes quite a bit of time to make a new console and games for it.

I wouldn't have had a problem losing the bet to the 2016 crowd either. It's just a bet.



Platforms: Wii U, New 3DS, PS4, PC

currently playing: 
 -Yoshi's Wooly World 
 -Pokemon X
 -Fire Emblem Fates 

Zone: Europe (Germany)

Proxy-Pie on 28 April 2016

Yoyo I won.



bigtakilla on 28 April 2016
Soundwave said:
bigtakilla said:

Not for everyone. I merely believed it wouldn't launch this year. Maybe why victory tastes amazing for me.

Pretty sure you were quite adamant on a the mythical "5th year" for Wii U that would include a new Metroid game just a few weeks ago. 

GameMaster87 I think was talking about something like 12 (lol) new Wii U titles in a 5th year.

The last "real" internal Nintendo projects for Wii U started in 2013 -- things like Splatoon. It's clear by 2014 they internally basically killed any serious support for the system and have been working on NX ever since (this is pretty much right around where Mr. Iwata starts making comments left and right about some type of unifid style game platform).

This is what I also tried to stress to people like Nem, NX launching whether it was in 2016 or 2017 was irrelevant, to make either launch date, game development for such a platform would have to begin by 2014 at the latest ... which meant bye bye Wii U. But a lot of people did not want to hear that, and that's pretty much exactly what happened and why you will be getting 1 whopping Wii U game at E3 this year (a game that isn't even predictably exclusive).

I believed in the possibility of a holiday 2017, while you guys were sure of a holiday 2016. That's why it's hard for you guys to swallow.



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Soundwave on 28 April 2016
Iyasu said:
curl-6 said:

Because it can barely be called victory really.

The hopes of the 2017 crowd were pinned on Wii U getting another year of support. Clearly, that isn't happening. Hence, all that was really won was a bet on an internet forum. If you were hoping for 12 more months of software support (which honestly was never going to happen) that's a poor consolation prize.

Ultimately, we all lost.

I'd like to point out, that I also bet on 2017 , and I can't recall ever thinking that the Wii U is going to have another great year full of support.

I'll turn it around:
I think some people of the 2016 group were to overzelous to replace the Wii U, and ignored that it takes quite a bit of time to make a new console and games for it.

I wouldn't have had a problem losing the bet to the 2016 crowd either. It's just a bet.

Three months is really not that big of a difference. If Mr. Iwata had not passed away, it's quite possible the system could be a go for holiday 2016, they were obviously aiming for that date and were willing to kill the Wii U in order to try and make that date. They missed -- but not by much. I suspect Kimishima may have had different ideas on launching with just Zelda + maybe one other Nintendo game + 6-7 third party ports and calling it a day.

There are pros/cons to both approaches, I think Nintendo did very badly want the holiday window because holidays (in Japan especially) make up a huge chunk of their sales, there's no way Nintendo is happy with just leaving the 2016 holiday barren the way it is, but they may have felt like the Wii U caused so much damage to them that any potential for a poor first impression could not be risked this time. Though perhaps Iwata would have disagreed with Kimishima on this.



Mr.Playstation on 28 April 2016

Good thing I missed it. I would be using a crow avatar by now :P



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Wright on 28 April 2016
Einsam_Delphin said:
Wright said:

C'mon. I don't find anything bad in reveling on the victory per se. I know I would had I won. :P

Unless they're reveling on it for the wrong reasons like the poster above you.

 

Reveling is reveling, no matter how wrong it is. At the end of the day, he was right and we were wrong, even if his reasoning was, ironically, dead wrong too.



bigtakilla on 28 April 2016
Iyasu said:
Einsam_Delphin said:

 

Unless they're reveling on it for the wrong reasons like the poster above you.

I think he's just teasing.

It looked very likely that the NX would come out in 2016, so likely that I was really close to switching camps.
I don't think anyone who voted one way or another is stupid for guessing that way.

Btw. my first thought was that holiday 2016 just wasn't enough time for a new console. I didn't even think about when in 2017 it would release, just that it wouldn't be in 2016.

Same. I often entertained the thought of how they COULD keep support for another year due to threads that simply said Nintendo couldn't, but it was never really a thing that I put my full faith in believing the Wii U WOULD last another full year. 

The only thing I knew was that NX would NOT be released in 2016.



bigtakilla on 28 April 2016

To some of the 2016 guys (you know who you are)