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End of the line. I won't respond anymore. Call me whatever insult you want and think it makes you look superior, because it actually does the contrary. Maybe you should point your strenght into your arguments and less into calling me stuff. This just makes you look even more insecure.

If you think being called a bigot is an insult... I just went after the definition, and that defintion it spot on.



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Peh said:
Slimebeast said:

Seriously?

You claimed " At what part does he take MENA migrants into his post?

I'll just quote his sentence, maybe it helps you in some kind of way: "And yet, in these numbers all immigrants are counted. If we were to lift out Scandinavians and Europeans, the overrepresentation of immigrants from outside of Europe would be even higher, well over 10 times."

Now.. show me where his MENA migrant argument is. Oh right.. .nowhere. :/"

And I explain how my claims include MENA immigrants exactly because the majority of "immigrants outside of Europe" are MENA immigrants.

You're just losing the discussion and pathetically dodging now. Believer of propaganda. (oh, another ad hominem, oops!)

Dog chased away cat.

First: A question is not a claim.

"I'll just quote his sentence, maybe it helps you in some kind of way: "And yet, in these numbers all immigrants are counted. If we were to lift out Scandinavians and Europeans, the overrepresentation of immigrants from outside of Europe would be even higher, well over 10 times."

Now.. show me where his MENA migrant argument is. Oh right.. .nowhere. :/"

Hahahahah what? I'll just add this to my reasons why I am done with you. Reading comprehension is certainly not your strenght. Nice try at twisting the point. You posted that old statistic about immigrants rape rate. I'll posted my links and Aura7541 complained why I ignored your MENA argument in your post, which you never had in the first place. I don't even know what you are fantasizing about. But just take your own "argument" as a reason why I won't be responding to you anymore in this regard to this topic. It's completely pointless.

And now you are intellectual dishonest. Because this was your original post:

"Nice stealth way of making insults.

Official swedish statistics of rape from 1985-1989.

The blue color are native swedes, the red are immigrants and their children and the orange are foreigners who don't live in the country.

So even back in the 80's when immigrants only were around 15% of the population of Sweden, they still commited a majority of rapes. That gives an overrepresentation of 8.5. Immigrants are 8.5 times likely to rape than native Swedes.

And yet, in these numbers all immigrants are counted. If we were to lift out Scandinavians and Europeans, the overrepresentation of immigrants from outside of Europe would be even higher, well over 10 times."

There is no distinction of MENA immigrants or even a mentioning of them. You are a liar.

 

Not in the figure but in the study it is based on there is a break down on country level, and somebody else in this thread refered to those specific numbers.

But keep denying, hero of foreigners.



Peh said:
Slimebeast said:

But I already told you:

I used statistics from the 80's, which is long before the new law was in place that widened the definition of rape in Sweden and that makes comparisons with other European numbers harder. But the 80's statistics are completely legit for showing rape crime and the gross overrepresentation of x5-10 times for immigrants outside of Europe (MENA).

The situation is even worse in the capitals of Norway and Finland according to police figures. Overall in Western Europe, the situation is similar and very gross.

But just you deny it all, together with your foreign friends. It's not like we haven't seen it before when it comes to Germany.

Just stop lying. Immigrants outside of Europe =/= MENA. Get your facts straight.

 

Also: Here what you also ignored:

http://www.nationmaster.com/country-info/stats/Crime/Rape-rate

Look where sweden is, and where the rest of Europe is.

You seem to lack even basic understanding of statistics.

When talking about overrepresentation - that immigrants are from 5 - 10 times more likely to rob, assault, rape and murder, we're talking proportions, percentages.

Even if Sweden has higher rapes per citizen than say Austria and Germany, due to us having a different more generous definition or rape, the proportion commited by immigrants stays the same - a gross overrepresentation.

In countries like Sweden, Norway, Denmark, Finland, Germany, UK, Austria, Netherlands, Belgium and Switzerland immigrants from outside of Europe are 5 - 10 times more likely to rob, assault, rape and murder.



Peh said:

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End of the line. I won't respond anymore. Call me whatever insult you want and think it makes you look superior, because it actually does the contrary. Maybe you should point your strenght into your arguments and less into calling me stuff. This just makes you look even more insecure.

If you think being called a bigot is an insult... I just went after the definition, and that defintion it spot on.

@Bolded. This is the 3rd time you've said that. Are you actually going to keep your word because you've been rather dishonest the entire time. For instance:

The definition of a bigot is "a person who strongly and unfairly dislikes other people, ideas, etc."

The unfairness part of the definition was not fulfilled, so like ad hominem, you have incorrectly applied the word. So no, you were not spot on. You were demonstrably wrong. Mentioning statistics that proves that MENA migrants are overrepresented in crime statistics in Europe is not bigoted. To claim otherwise is like saying objectivity is subjective.