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Illusion on 11 April 2016
HoloDust said:

 

Bottom line actually is how gaming press treated this "case", not being objective, siding with her as a martyr and blaming Nintendo for firing her, and now that there's more info, trying (along with some forums and their SJWs) to sweep it under the rug.and to keep the classic bogeyman narrative of "GG harrassed her".

I agree.  It was slanderous the way the Gamergate community was tarnished over the bullying of this person.  Even reputable gaming sites that I had a lot of respect for factually reported that the gamergate community was at fault here and I believed them.  Looking back, I have seen very little evidence that the gamergate community was at fault for the harrassment.  In fact, I have gone back into history and read entire threads on reddit where gamers were debating whether or not to troll this lady over Fire Emblem and the general consensus was that they should not because (morality aside) she wasn't tied to localization process, anyways.  It sounds like some third party trolls who had actually been kicked out of the mainstream gamergate boards latched on to it and they were the ones who started digging into her history.

The people who bullied her are at fault here (...of being unkind, and not any sort of left-wing thought crime), but they should stand by their actions as individuals.  There were a lot of Gamergaters who tried to stop this and yet they are now being thrown under the bus along with the guilty.



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HoloDust on 11 April 2016
Soundwave said:
HoloDust said:

No, that is not bottom line - there are trolls out there, of the mean, vicious kind, for just about any reason imaginable, and someone in PR position HAS to know how to handle them in this day and age - her incompetence as PR alone was enough for Nintendo to fire her, let alone all other stuff.

Bottom line actually is how gaming press treated this "case", not being objective, siding with her as a martyr and blaming Nintendo for firing her, and now that there's more info, trying (along with some forums and their SJWs) to sweep it under the rug.and to keep the classic bogeyman narrative of "GG harrassed her".

So basically anyone who is dubbed a "feminist" is open game to be cyberstalked, bullied online, and should have their life put under a microscope by hackers even in cases where really they did nothing wrong?

I don't like Sarkesian, but at the same time I don't believe you have the right to start throwing out death threats and the engage in this type of behavior because you disagree over *video games* with them. 

It's insane and "gamers" who think this is a good look for the community are sadly mistaken. This is not going to end anywhere well or anything to be proud of if these types of things continue. 

These idiots don't represent me as a gamer, fuck them. If they're so interested in "men's rights" why don't they "man up" and take off the cloak of anonominity and show themselves in full disclosure so they can account for their action and have their own personal life turned inside out and see how they enjoy it?

This is not really logically that far off from the justification ISIS sympathizers use "well they insulted the prophet by drawing a cartoon so they deserved to be shot" or "this is all consipracy by the West, but they deserved it anyway". If you disagree with someone fine, have a civil discussion about it and have your voice heard. You don't have the right to start terrorizing a person's personal life and I'm never going to be supportive of that type of behavior, it's disgusting. 

Not sure what part of "trolls will be trolls" (from the previous thread) have you not understood, so you keep bringing up GG because "she said so", while info points to GG not having to do anything with it...but you sure avoid even going near the issues of press blindly siding with her and jumping at Nintendo's throat.

Speaking about the press, funny you should mention civilized discussion, since SJW outlets/forums were specificaly deleting posts and bannig people who were having civilized discussions, both in this instance and the first time - and that old trick with demonizing opponent is really geting old, if anyone is not for duscussion and debate, if anyone is close-minded and obsessed with its own ideology, if anyone is shuting down any conversation in last 2 or so years, that's SJWs and press that supports them.



COKTOE on 11 April 2016

Whaaaat? I have really only been following this in a loose, very peripheral way. Then, some users mention that she has a "side job" or "other job" that further damns her as far as defending her firing goes. Google. So she's a prostitute?! And she's married!?!? AND her husband is a prostitute as well!?!?!?! Holy shit!



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Mr Puggsly on 11 April 2016
COKTOE said:

Whaaaat? I have really only been following this in a loose, very peripheral way. Then, some users mention that she has a "side job" or "other job" that further damns her as far as defending her firing goes. Google. So she's a prostitute?! And she's married!?!? AND her husband is a prostitute as well!?!?!?! Holy shit!

She gave the impression her termination was due to the interweb bullies, Nintendo took a beating from the media, and it turns out her side job conflicts with her Nintendo position in a big way.

She doesn't deserve the online harassment. But I have no sympathy for her termination. Being an escort while being a represenitive for Nintendo just can't end well.



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COKTOE on 11 April 2016

I may be well behind, but I'm going to post this totally NSFW link that show pics of her advertisement of her work as a high class whore for those in the dark. Google it for other details. Absolutely fascinating. I wish I could explain how this makes me find her more attractive, buy I honestly couldn't even explain it to myself in the mirror. http://8ch.net/ggrevolt/res/91865.html



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COKTOE on 11 April 2016

I agree she does not deserve any harassment. But the scope of the whole situation.....wow.



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Frogger on 11 April 2016

Alison Rapp doesn't deserve to be harassed, but if she really was a prostitute, neither does Nintendo.



GodOfPeace3 on 11 April 2016
Soundwave said:
HoloDust said:

No, that is not bottom line - there are trolls out there, of the mean, vicious kind, for just about any reason imaginable, and someone in PR position HAS to know how to handle them in this day and age - her incompetence as PR alone was enough for Nintendo to fire her, let alone all other stuff.

Bottom line actually is how gaming press treated this "case", not being objective, siding with her as a martyr and blaming Nintendo for firing her, and now that there's more info, trying (along with some forums and their SJWs) to sweep it under the rug.and to keep the classic bogeyman narrative of "GG harrassed her".

So basically anyone who is dubbed a "feminist" is open game to be cyberstalked, bullied online, and should have their life put under a microscope by hackers even in cases where really they did nothing wrong?

I don't like Sarkesian, but at the same time I don't believe you have the right to start throwing out death threats and the engage in this type of behavior because you disagree over *video games* with them. 

It's insane and "gamers" who think this is a good look for the community are sadly mistaken. This is not going to end anywhere well or anything to be proud of if these types of things continue. 

These idiots don't represent me as a gamer, fuck them. If they're so interested in "men's rights" why don't they "man up" and take off the cloak of anonominity and show themselves in full disclosure so they can account for their action and have their own personal life turned inside out and see how they enjoy it?

This is not really logically that far off from the justification ISIS sympathizers use "well they insulted the prophet by drawing a cartoon so they deserved to be shot" or "this is all consipracy by the West, but they deserved it anyway". If you disagree with someone fine, have a civil discussion about it and have your voice heard. You don't have the right to start terrorizing a person's personal life and I'm never going to be supportive of that type of behavior, it's disgusting. 

You have no clue what you're even talking about, Soundwave. White Knighting will get you nowhere. You're just making stuff up to fit your arguments.



Soundwave on 11 April 2016
HoloDust said:
Soundwave said:

So basically anyone who is dubbed a "feminist" is open game to be cyberstalked, bullied online, and should have their life put under a microscope by hackers even in cases where really they did nothing wrong?

I don't like Sarkesian, but at the same time I don't believe you have the right to start throwing out death threats and the engage in this type of behavior because you disagree over *video games* with them. 

It's insane and "gamers" who think this is a good look for the community are sadly mistaken. This is not going to end anywhere well or anything to be proud of if these types of things continue. 

These idiots don't represent me as a gamer, fuck them. If they're so interested in "men's rights" why don't they "man up" and take off the cloak of anonominity and show themselves in full disclosure so they can account for their action and have their own personal life turned inside out and see how they enjoy it?

This is not really logically that far off from the justification ISIS sympathizers use "well they insulted the prophet by drawing a cartoon so they deserved to be shot" or "this is all consipracy by the West, but they deserved it anyway". If you disagree with someone fine, have a civil discussion about it and have your voice heard. You don't have the right to start terrorizing a person's personal life and I'm never going to be supportive of that type of behavior, it's disgusting. 

Not sure what part of "trolls will be trolls" (from the previous thread) have you not understood, so you keep bringing up GG because "she said so", while info points to GG not having to do anything with it...but you sure avoid even going near the issues of press blindly siding with her and jumping at Nintendo's throat.

Speaking about the press, funny you should mention civilized discussion, since SJW outlets/forums were specificaly deleting posts and bannig people who were having civilized discussions, both in this instance and the first time - and that old trick with demonizing opponent is really geting old, if anyone is not for duscussion and debate, if anyone is close-minded and obsessed with its own ideology, if anyone is shuting down any conversation in last 2 or so years, that's SJWs and press that supports them.

"Trolls will be trolls" ... really ... this is not "trolling". This is far beyond that, this is cyberstalking, so first off lets call it what it is. Trolling is a web post where you "luluz Wii U iz teh doomed guys". That and this are two very different things. This not behavior gamers should be supportive of at all. 

I don't care which "group" these people are from, I don't support this tactic one bit, GamerGate/4Chan whatever. The people who stirred this shit pot and started harrassing this girl are *assholes* by their behavior. 

Pro-tip for a "man's rights acitivist", you're not a "man" by hiding behind a keyboard and ganging up on a girl to pick on her. You're a bitch (how's that for gender equality). 



Soundwave on 11 April 2016
Skeetys said:
Soundwave said:

So basically anyone who is dubbed a "feminist" is open game to be cyberstalked, bullied online, and should have their life put under a microscope by hackers even in cases where really they did nothing wrong?

I don't like Sarkesian, but at the same time I don't believe you have the right to start throwing out death threats and the engage in this type of behavior because you disagree over *video games* with them. 

It's insane and "gamers" who think this is a good look for the community are sadly mistaken. This is not going to end anywhere well or anything to be proud of if these types of things continue. 

These idiots don't represent me as a gamer, fuck them. If they're so interested in "men's rights" why don't they "man up" and take off the cloak of anonominity and show themselves in full disclosure so they can account for their action and have their own personal life turned inside out and see how they enjoy it?

This is not really logically that far off from the justification ISIS sympathizers use "well they insulted the prophet by drawing a cartoon so they deserved to be shot" or "this is all consipracy by the West, but they deserved it anyway". If you disagree with someone fine, have a civil discussion about it and have your voice heard. You don't have the right to start terrorizing a person's personal life and I'm never going to be supportive of that type of behavior, it's disgusting. 

You have no clue what you're even talking about, Soundwave. White Knighting will get you nowhere. You're just making stuff up to fit your arguments.

lol, I don't need to white knight shit. I don't need these fuck wads representing me as a gamer, I've been a gamer probably longer than most of them have been alive.