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FromDK on 31 March 2016
Megaoverlord12 said:

Nintendo handhelds often have surprisingly low software to hardware ratios, largely because people who buy Nintendo handhelds largely only buy Nintendo games even on the DS, which had a tie in ratio around 5 games per system. PlayStation and Xbox gamers traditonally buy far more third party games, so the writing was on the wall. Congrats, I guess.

I think its more a handheld thing.. both psp and vita is way lower software to hardware ratios than theire Nintendo conterpart..



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Kowan on 31 March 2016
MortienGerrux said:
Kowan said:

And yet you provide numbers including digital sales while the OP only has numbers pertaining to physical sales.

I don't see that anywhere in the title or original post.

Also, why wouldn't digital sales matter?

You're in Vgchartz and yet you do not know that this site only counts physical sales?

I didn't say it doesn't matter, I'm saying you're comparing two completely different things.



jason1637 on 31 March 2016
Kowan said:
MortienGerrux said:

I don't see that anywhere in the title or original post.

Also, why wouldn't digital sales matter?

You're in Vgchartz and yet you do not know that this site only counts physical sales?

I didn't say it doesn't matter, I'm saying you're comparing two completely different things.

There not different. The only different thing is where your buying the game.

Its like saying I buy a game from Gamestop then one from Walmart and you saying there different. 



Kowan on 31 March 2016
jason1637 said:
Kowan said:

You're in Vgchartz and yet you do not know that this site only counts physical sales?

I didn't say it doesn't matter, I'm saying you're comparing two completely different things.

There not different. The only different thing is where your buying the game.

Its like saying I buy a game from Gamestop then one from Walmart and you saying there different. 

Uhh I'm talking about physical sales and digital sales.



MortienGerrux on 31 March 2016
Boutros said:
Chazore said:

And yet there is PC data in the thread along with the topic being in gaming discussion, why the hell can he not talk about any sort of PC data, why the is that somehow never allowed on here?, it's only seemingly allowed when it benefits the other party. As if no one here ever shits on PC at all, that's complete bs.

Because using units sold when talking about PC sales is super misleading. The same goes for mobile games.

In fact only revenue should be compared when talking about different ecosystems (home consoles, handhelds, PC, mobiles, etc.).

Steamspy is more accurate then anything else on the internet. It counts how many PUBLIC steam profiles own the game.

So PRIVATE profiles don't count. That could atleast be another 20-30% on top. Also Steam isn't the only place to get games. The Division for example propably sold more copies on Ubisoft's own client, UPLAY!

However, I didn't know this thread was about phyiscal copies, my fault!



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MortienGerrux on 31 March 2016
axumblade said:
jason1637 said:

There not different. The only different thing is where your buying the game.

Its like saying I buy a game from Gamestop then one from Walmart and you saying there different. 

The reason they are different is because we do not have a way to track digital sales and the data being used on this thread is based on VGChartz numbers.  

For consoles not, but Steam database api is open for everyone. That's how Steamspy got created! See my comment above.

Would be nice if VGChartz could integrate that in the stats!



Boutros on 31 March 2016
MortienGerrux said:
Boutros said:

Because using units sold when talking about PC sales is super misleading. The same goes for mobile games.

In fact only revenue should be compared when talking about different ecosystems (home consoles, handhelds, PC, mobiles, etc.).

Steamspy is more accurate then anything else on the internet. It counts how many PUBLIC steam profile own the game.

So PRIVATE profiles don't count. That could atleast be another 20-30% on top. Also Steam isn't the only place to get games. 

However, I didn't know this thread was about phyiscal copies, my fault!

I don't understand how your reply pertains to my post honestly lol



Tabathedfield on 31 March 2016

that's pretty cool! the ps4 has very strong legs.

also i don't understand the previous arguing, both consoles and pc sells great, there are many times that news articles comes up and say that X game sold better on consoles and the same thing happens vice versa sometimes, so its not like games always sells better on just 1 platform, that isn't true at all.

but anyways yeah nice to see both the ps4 and the 3ds doing so well, they are beasts on their own territories!



Megaoverlord12 on 31 March 2016
zorg1000 said:
Megaoverlord12 said:

Very true, I'll admit to not noticing that. I know that a very large demographic for handhelds are kids who buy the latest Pokemon or whatever and that's it, but I can't fathom only having 4 3DS games or 5 DS games.

i think alot of it is due to families with multiple kids may each have their own handheld but share games.

also having multiple revisions means people are more likely to double dip than on consoles. for example alot of Gameboy owners probably bought Pocket or Color later on. alot of GBA owners upgraded to SP. alot of DS owners upgraded to Lite then later to DSi. many 3DS owners may have upgraded to XL then to New.

I didn't think of it that way. While I'm the only gamer in my house, my circle of friends and I do borrow a lot of games off of each other; one of them is borrowing my copy of Mario & Luigi: Paper Jam right now. I also did upgrade from an old 3DS to a New XL, so that kind of proves that as well.



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jason1637 on 31 March 2016
Megaoverlord12 said:
zorg1000 said:

i think alot of it is due to families with multiple kids may each have their own handheld but share games.

also having multiple revisions means people are more likely to double dip than on consoles. for example alot of Gameboy owners probably bought Pocket or Color later on. alot of GBA owners upgraded to SP. alot of DS owners upgraded to Lite then later to DSi. many 3DS owners may have upgraded to XL then to New.

I didn't think of it that way. While I'm the only gamer in my house, my circle of friends and I do borrow a lot of games off of each other; one of them is borrowing my copy of Mario & Luigi: Paper Jam right now. I also did upgrade from an old 3DS to a New XL, so that kind of proves that as well.

I live with my sisters and they all have the 3ds(casual). I usally give them games i don't play anymore.