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Azzanation on 31 March 2016
AEGRO said:
Mr Puggsly said:

A console doesn't need to achieve the sales of the last platform to success. For a example, Vita selling 40 million would have been a great success. Wii U selling 50 million would have been a success. 3DS is doing well even though it has sold significnatly less than DS. PS3 sold well even though it was significantly less than PS2 (but it lost billions of dollars).

X1 sales have been steady YoY thus far. Also, lets take into consideration much of the 360's success came from horrible decisions made with PS3. Now PS4 is benefitting from bad decisions made with X1.

Has the Xbox Division made any money ever? I honestly dont know, i remember that i read somewhere that it never has made a penny for Ms.

If it never made money selling 90million consoles the gen before, id say that this gen it wont be making any money neither.

Drastic changes will happen, as far as i know, the PC fusion has affected the Xbox brand tremendously.

Haha Xbox rack in millions for MS. Why do you think there able to continue making consoles for the past 3 generations? Not only does Xbox software sells more than Sony's, Xbox Live is the money maker. Which isn’t included in Xbox's financial statements. Why do you think Sony followed Xbox’s online network structure? Because Sony have been struggling to make profits on most of their own systems and to top it off, Playstation’s own exclusives sell the least amount compared to Nintendo’s and Xbox’s.

The profits in the gaming industry has never been about selling the most hardware, it’s where the software and paywalls are. Why do you think Xbox want a pie of the PC market space? Because its where the most software sell.



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AEGRO on 31 March 2016
Mr Puggsly said:
AEGRO said:

Has the Xbox Division made any money ever? I honestly dont know, i remember that i read somewhere that it never has made a penny for Ms.

If it never made money selling 90million consoles the gen before, id say that this gen it wont be making any money neither.

Drastic changes will happen, as far as i know, the PC fusion has affected the Xbox brand tremendously.

If the Xbox division never made money its because of OG Xbox losing so much. With that said, PS3 lost much of Playstation's profits.

Xbox 360 was profitable inspite of the red ring problems. X1 isn't sold at much of a loss and they haven't lost a billion dollars because of some major hardware failure. So X1 should be finaically worthwhile.

You keep telling me PC is hurting Xbox brand with no proof. If Xbox sales decline I would sooner blame other factors.

Im open to all opinions bro, why do you think the Xbox One sales have been declining this year?

Specially on this month with:

  • 50$ Price Cut
  • Quantum Break
  • Tons of deals and promotions
  • Quantum Break Bundle, Name your Game Bundle, Gears of War Bundle, among others.
  • Etc

This is the first time in my life, since i begin to read videogame news a long time ago, that a console with a price cut and a huge exclusive have sold less than the month before. It is unprecedented.



Mr Puggsly on 31 March 2016
ArchangelMadzz said:

Meh, I'd say the 360's success was through its online infrastructure, releasing an entire year earlier and halo 3. As soon as the PS3 came out people were doom and gloom, but it practically outsold the 360 every single year it was out.

And PS4s success was carried momentum and xbox failure at the beginning. After that it's due to the whole resolution/frame rate and being the more attractive system that will beat the competition even if it costs more.

I hear ya, but people kept going to Xbox 360 because PS3 was too expensive for several years. That allowed the 360 userbase to grow and it became a platform many studios had to support.

In numerous generations you'll see competition was able to thrive due to mistakes of competition.



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AEGRO on 31 March 2016
Azzanation said:

Haha Xbox rack in millions for MS. Why do you think there able to continue making consoles for the past 3 generations? Not only does Xbox software sells more than Sony's, Xbox Live is the money maker. Which isn’t included in Xbox's financial statements. Why do you think Sony followed Xbox’s online network structure? Because Sony have been struggling to make profits on most of their own systems and to top it off, Playstation’s own exclusives sell the least amount compared to Nintendo’s and Xbox’s.

The profits in the gaming industry has never been about selling the most hardware, it’s where the software and paywalls are. Why do you think Xbox want a pie of the PC market space? Because its where the most software sell.



The_BlackHeart__ on 31 March 2016

Correct me if I'm wrong. Both Halo and Gears have already been on PC before...

...but I believe that Forza was the only franchise to be fully exclusive to the XBox Brand wasn't it?



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Mr Puggsly on 31 March 2016
AEGRO said:

Im open to all opinions bro, why do you think the Xbox One sales have been declining this year?

Specially on this month with:

  • 50$ Price Cut
  • Quantum Break
  • Tons of deals and promotions
  • Quantum Break Bundle, Name your Game Bundle, Gears of War Bundle, among others.
  • Etc

This is the first time in my life, since i begin to read videogame news a long time ago, that a console with a price cut and a huge exclusive have sold less than the month before. It is unprecedented.

I dunno bro, Playstation is doing a better job at appealing to consumers. What do you wanna hear?

Anyhow, if they can maintain 7-8 million sales a year then its doing fine.

Quantum Break is a major release but I'm not anticipating huge sales.



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AEGRO on 31 March 2016
Mr Puggsly said:
ArchangelMadzz said:

Meh, I'd say the 360's success was through its online infrastructure, releasing an entire year earlier and halo 3. As soon as the PS3 came out people were doom and gloom, but it practically outsold the 360 every single year it was out.

And PS4s success was carried momentum and xbox failure at the beginning. After that it's due to the whole resolution/frame rate and being the more attractive system that will beat the competition even if it costs more.

I hear ya, but people kept going to Xbox 360 because PS3 was too expensive for several years. That allowed the 360 userbase to grow and it became a platform many studios had to support.

In numerous generations you'll see competition was able to thrive due to mistakes of competition.

The Xbox One is cheaper than the Ps4 tho



Mr Puggsly on 31 March 2016
AEGRO said:
Mr Puggsly said:

I hear ya, but people kept going to Xbox 360 because PS3 was too expensive for several years. That allowed the 360 userbase to grow and it became a platform many studios had to support.

In numerous generations you'll see competition was able to thrive due to mistakes of competition.

The Xbox One is cheaper than the Ps4 tho

The price dispairty of 360 and PS3 was much bigger than $50. Anyhow, lets give this discussion a rest.

But getting back on topic... Killer Instinct is great on PC! Reviewing well in the Windows Store as well.



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Swordmasterman on 31 March 2016
Azzanation said:
AEGRO said:

Has the Xbox Division made any money ever? I honestly dont know, i remember that i read somewhere that it never has made a penny for Ms.

If it never made money selling 90million consoles the gen before, id say that this gen it wont be making any money neither.

Drastic changes will happen, as far as i know, the PC fusion has affected the Xbox brand tremendously.

Haha Xbox rack in millions for MS. Why do you think there able to continue making consoles for the past 3 generations? Not only does Xbox software sells more than Sony's, Xbox Live is the money maker. Which isn’t included in Xbox's financial statements. Why do you think Sony followed Xbox’s online network structure? Because Sony have been struggling to make profits on most of their own systems and to top it off, Playstation’s own exclusives sell the least amount compared to Nintendo’s and Xbox’s.

The profits in the gaming industry has never been about selling the most hardware, it’s where the software and paywalls are. Why do you think Xbox want a pie of the PC market space? Because its where the most software sell.

Sony, and Microsoft's Sales Last Generation where not those far, Both Sold nearly the Same of games  Published by them, Microsoft, have the Advantage because Kinect, was much more sucessful than PS Eye.

Microsoft, Lost Billions with Xbox Original, and with Xbox 360, Because of the RROD, In the Past 3 Generations,  Sony, had the PS2, the Best Selling Console of all Times, had nearly the same Loses that Microsoft, had with RROD, and PS4, already sold more than 200 Millions of Software, and over 40 Millions of Hardware, Sony, Already had their Own Network Online Structure, the Problem is that they thought that the Midia, and the Fans would Bash the Playstation, if they charged to play Online, and after Years of Microsoft, charging for it without anyone saying nothing, they started to do the Same.

 

We don't know how much Xbox Made per year, but is really ridiculos to thing that this give more Profit for Microsoft, than Playstation, give for Sony,  i think that the Xbox's Brand, is somewhere Behind Nintendo's Profit, and with Countless Price Drops and Promotions, Sony, and Nintendo, also have more profit per unit than Xbox, now the Wii U, is More Expensive than a Xbox One.

Sony, came from  Being the Best Selling home Console of All Times 2 times in a Row, to lose some Billions of PS3, and now for being the Market Leader Once Again, with a Console that will for sure sell more than 100 Millions of Hardware Worldwide.

We need more Data about how much each company lost Last Gen, because Microsoft, Lost much with the Original Xbox, and begin the 7 Generation, loosing a Lot, only to take the Ground of PS2, and Sony, has came from 2 Generations before that having the best selling Home consoles of all times, and managed to take the losses of the PS3.