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mornelithe on 10 April 2016
Hiku said:
mornelithe said:

You don't have to analyze it, I provided a direct quote from her Thesis.  You provided a synopsis from Kotaku, setting aside the fact that Stephen Totilo is on video saying he didn't find journalistic ethics to be particularly important (this is the Editor in Chief of Kotaku), the large volumes of ethical breaches at Kotaku, and that Kotaku's parent company Gawker just got bitchslapped by a Judge for journalistic ethics violations (which may end the parent company), I'm surprised you find a secondary synposis, over what the person in question write.   Call me crazy, but I'm going to go with what she actually wrote.

You provided one quote, and you added "at times it's unclear what she means", and "give the impression".
How do you then go on to claim that one doesn't need to analyze the thesis in order to understand her viewpoint?
Often times you can't find clarity of someone's stance from a single paragraph because it is written with the assumption that you've read the entierty of it.
I'm not looking at a synopsis over what she wrote. I'm looking at it in addition to it. That person has a better understanding of her thesis than I do, and that's the conclusion he reached.
At some point she "distinguishes between exploiting real-life children and the creation of fictionalized sexual material". And that she supposedly argues for stronger laws against child exploitation seems to contradict the notion that she would support real child pornography. So reading the full thesis may indeed be neccesary to be clear about when she's talking about real life and fiction.

No, you're the one who said you hadn't analyzed the thesis, I was pointing out that the quote I provided didn't require you to.   And yes, at times she was unclear, you know when a really awesome time to be clear, and not give the wrong impression is?  When you're writing a thesis that touches upon real and fictional child pornography.  Beyond her thesis, she has also tweeted some not so ambiguous things.

And yeah, Kotaku.



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mornelithe on 10 April 2016
Hiku said:
mornelithe said:

No, you're the one who said you hadn't analyzed the thesis, I was pointing out that the quote I provided didn't require you to.   And yes, at times she was unclear, you know when a really awesome time to be clear, and not give the wrong impression is?  When you're writing a thesis that touches upon real and fictional child pornography.  Beyond her thesis, she has also tweeted some not so ambiguous things.

And yeah, Kotaku.

How exactly are you able to assure me that a single quote from her thesis doesn't require any further analysis from her thesis? For example, for all I know she could have written a disclamer clarifying that she is talking about fictional material during that section.
And yes, being clear about her stance in the thesis itself is what I'm talking about as well. That doesn't mean that any given paragraph can't be missunderstood without reading the rest of it.

As for Kotaku, I'm well aware of Kotaku. And even though I have little praise for their journalism or work ethics, I can't exactly take the credentials of any given commenter on vgchartz forum for face value either. If I did, I'd be convinced that NX is coming out in 2018, and Xbox One will surpass PS4 in sales worldwide.
And to be clear, you haven't even specified if you've read through her entire thesis or not. But if there are other articles about this that have analyzed her thesis and their views contradicts that of the Kotaku article, I'd be more skeptical about it. For now, that's the only synopsis of it I've read.

My interest in this subject is moderate enough to read the jist of an article or two. But not to properly analyze a theisis and do extensive research on the matter.

Yeah, the quote came from the article I was indicating you hadn't read, not some random commenter on Vgchartz.  Thanks for proving the point.  As far as Kotaku, the problem isn't necessarily the story, the problem is reading just their version of it. 



Wyrdness on 10 April 2016
Hiku said:

I haven't read that tweet, but it would be interesting to see it.

You don't have to look hard it's linked in the thread on page 3.

http://gamrconnect.vgchartz.com/thread.php?id=215247&page=3



Ganoncrotch on 10 April 2016
noname2200 said:
mornelithe said:

Aren't you supposed to wait until it's actually developed? Oh, Kotaku....

Lol'd at this, maybe Gawker group sites should be a small bit more careful now about fact checking stories. I hear it can be costly not to!



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wombat123 on 10 April 2016
Ganoncrotch said:
noname2200 said:

Aren't you supposed to wait until it's actually developed? Oh, Kotaku....

Lol'd at this, maybe Gawker group sites should be a small bit more careful now about fact checking stories. I hear it can be costly not to!

I have no sympathy for Rapp but the gaming media and SJWs really need to take some responsibility for all of this because a lot of this was caused by them.  They're the ones that put Rapp's name out there to the general public with that big article on Kotaku which eventually got the Wayne Foundation involved asking Nintendo to fire Rapp -- which probably got them investigating her.  They're the ones that got so excited at the prospect of creating a martyr for social justice that they went on a media blitz after Rapp was fired without doing any research and ended up exposing stuff about her that she'd probably have wanted to be kept private.  They're the ones that forced Nintendo to issue a statement on why Rapp was fired -- prompting 3rd party trolls to dig into her second job as a lewd model and escort.  In their zealous attempt to push their agenda, they essentially turned Rapp and her husband into complete jokes.  The only thing everyone else did was stand on the sidelines and watch.



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FragilE^ on 14 April 2016

So did any of the original posters of this story (Kotaku for example) come out and apologize? Did anyone update the story?



mornelithe on 14 April 2016
FragilE^ said:
So did any of the original posters of this story (Kotaku for example) come out and apologize? Did anyone update the story?

Kotaku did, yes.  Patrick Klepek however, did not apologize.  Though, it should be evident at this point there is little to no accountability at Kotaku.



FragilE^ on 15 April 2016
mornelithe said:
FragilE^ said:
So did any of the original posters of this story (Kotaku for example) come out and apologize? Did anyone update the story?

Kotaku did, yes.  Patrick Klepek however, did not apologize.  Though, it should be evident at this point there is little to no accountability at Kotaku.

If there was any accountability the site would've shut down a long time ago :) Still, they at least bothered to do something about it, right? Even if it was pure damagecontrol, they at least did SOMETHING. A small light at the end of the tunnel. Maybe.



Dunban67 on 15 April 2016

that is one of the most inaccurate article s i ve ever read-   it does a terrible job fully detailing the story-

You know when large chunks of the truth and or story are left out that reality must not be to the writers favor/agenda

Kotaku is well know for such drivle-  These neo fems and SJW s would have made Gerbles, Goering and Co proud back in the day- Matter of fact they would have been Stolin and Lenin favorites too -  propaganda at ts finest



wombat123 on 15 April 2016
Dunban67 said:

that is one of the most inaccurate article s i ve ever read-   it does a terrible job fully detailing the story-

You know when large chunks of the truth and or story are left out that reality must not be to the writers favor/agenda

Kotaku is well know for such drivle-  These neo fems and SJW s would have made Gerbles, Goering and Co proud back in the day- Matter of fact they would have been Stolin and Lenin favorites too -  propaganda at ts finest

Luckily, Hogan and their unpaid interns are going to cause enough damage that they'll be nothing more than a propaganda rag for Russia.  I'm just happy that social progressivism is starting to get some pushback because its turning into a modern day version of McCarthyism except SJWs are replacing communist with terms like 'sexist', 'racist', 'misogynist' and using them as blank checks to ruin lives for disagreeing with them.