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When will people stop reading Kotaku? This thread is an example of why they are a joke. They wanted to push an agenda, facts be damned, as usual. Her side job is a cause for termination. It would be at most corporations. Of course that doesn't fit their predetermined narrative.



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Darc Requiem said:

When will people stop reading Kotaku? This thread is an example of why they are a joke. They wanted to push an agenda, facts be damned, as usual. Her side job is a cause for termination. It would be at most corporations. Of course that doesn't fit their predetermined narrative.

This is what sites like Kotaku do though, they realize the volume of damage they can do just running with the fallacy from the start.  Then correcting hours or days later.  Tons of people already see the wrong thing, and take it as gospel.  Never seeing the retraction, or not believing it when they hear it from another source.  They taint the well from the beginning, so you have to throw the entire story out from the start.  And few people are willing to do that when strongly emotional subjects are involved.



Aielyn said:

I'm sorry, but that's highly reductive, black-and-white thinking, on a complex topic. Alison wasn't defending the watching of child porn. Her thesis was on the topic of *drawn* child porn - images of fictional children drawn with pen and paper, or by computer. No child was in any way harmed by such images.

Law shouldn't be about revenge. It shouldn't be about punishing people because it'll make the victim or their family feel better. And it most certainly shouldn't be about punishing something for being outside of the mainstream. It should be dealing with real problems, like actual child sexual abuse, not demonisation of those who have an unusual sexual proclivity and seek out ways to satisfy that proclivity without actively doing anything to any children.

If you can't comprehend these concepts, then I'm glad you're not a politician - we have enough politicians who are incapable of understanding nuance as it is.

EDIT: But I do like the part where you suggested that child sexual abuse is worse than drug use, and therefore the reasoning regarding how to deal with the problem should be completely different even though there's a direct analogy between the two cases. Indeed, if anything, the fact that the real concern with child porn is at the producer end should give you MORE reason to want to deal with it by going after the makers, whereas drug use is more about the impact on the end user and those around the end user.

Except her tweets is also in regard to real life child porn which blows the first paragraph away.

Laws are about keeping order and justice, if you abuse someone or contribute to it then you deserve to received an adequate punishment no ifs or buts, it is established early on by society in someone's life that abuse of children is wrong and illegal, if a person keeps it in their head then fine but if they start getting involved in it in any manner whether directly or indirectly like downloading child porn you deserve to be dealt with. By having child porn a person is supporting an predatory industry which in turn goes on to pull in more victims, this isn't no politically open non-sense like you're trying to push it's straight up wrong and illegal, this is why both the producer and those he's catering to deserve strong action against them.



Darc Requiem said:

When will people stop reading Kotaku? This thread is an example of why they are a joke. They wanted to push an agenda, facts be damned, as usual. Her side job is a cause for termination. It would be at most corporations. Of course that doesn't fit their predetermined narrative.

You should do a search on her on google.  There's a media blitz taking place with sites pushing the same false harassment narrative and quoting each other like they did during a certain series of events where they labeled a certain group of people as 'dead' and caused the birth of a hashtag that progressive ideologues despise and use as a boogeyman whenever they screw up.



wombat123 said:
Darc Requiem said:

When will people stop reading Kotaku? This thread is an example of why they are a joke. They wanted to push an agenda, facts be damned, as usual. Her side job is a cause for termination. It would be at most corporations. Of course that doesn't fit their predetermined narrative.

You should do a search on her on google.  There's a media blitz taking place with sites pushing the same false harassment narrative and quoting each other like they did during a certain series of events where they labeled a certain group of people as 'dead' and caused the birth of a hashtag that progressive ideologues despise and use as a boogeyman whenever they screw up.

Its almost as if these idiots haven't learned a single thing, everything GG ever stood for is justified and legit and journalism in general is fucking dead. Well, almost. In reality, GG is an organized hate group on 4chan, and no one (outside of GG) ever did anything wrong... I mean, that must be the truth. I hear it every day.



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I'm surprised that no one has mentioned Jamie Walton, President and co-founder of The Wayne Foundation. She was the person who contacted Nintendo about Alison's pedophilia.

 

 

 

 

And to the people on this thread who immediately blamed GamerGate because of course, everything is GG's fault...

 

 

 

 



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mornelithe said:

Aren't you supposed to wait until it's actually developed? Oh, Kotaku....



It's truly, truly outrageous
Truly, truly, truly outrageous..



The Gamergate crowd has an important lesson to learn from this and that is the concept of a martyr. If somebody is a public face of a movement that you disagree with you DO NOT fight the movement by attacking the face as you will just prove yourself to be all the more bad in the eyes of your opponents. Opposition will grow towards you as a result and the ideals that you oppose will advance.

Gamergate likely had nothing to do with the firing of Alison, but Nintendo has to now treat their decision to fire this lady as though it were a show of partisan support towards the Gamergate crowd thanks to the petty attacks that preceded her firing. As a result, Nintendo is going to have to be more lenient to the feminists in the future in order for the company to restore a balanced public image.  This could mean letting things in like a female Link in Zelda U which I feel would be a far bigger loss for us than if we had just left Alison alone as a Nintendo employee who really didn't hold any sway on the content in games.

In short, the real losers here is the pro-Gamergate crowd: we have now made a martyr out of Alison and we will suffer the consequences. In the future, we need to attack the ideas of our opponents but show respect toward the people with whom we disagree: this will add legitimacy to the Gamergate movement.