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zero129 said:
HEMSTAR said:

Then why doesn't Microsoft or Nintendo put their games on the Playstation 4 because there is a massive amount of money there, or why doesn't Sony put their games and PSVR on the Xbox One because there's defintely money there as well. It's really simple and that is there is no point making your own gaming hardware if you don't have any exclusive software to offer while the companies you are competing against do. Sony's whole business model is to push PS4 sales and they do that by offering people stuff they can only get on their platform. But you can keep begging like you do in the youtube comment section on every Uncharted 4 video.

 

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Its simple. Putting your games on a closed competting platform is not the same as putting your game on an Open Platform. Sony doesnt even need to support Windows like others have said they could allow their Store on Linux. Plus i really dont think anyone here is really trying to say this will happen anytime soon. We are talking a good bit in the future here.

Things i got right

FFvs13 will go multiplatform and be renamed to FF15. No one here believed me.

All nextgen systems wont be that powerful, No one really liked that opinion.

X1 will become a Windows 10 box and Ms and all companys will release their own Stores for PC. This also wasnt a very liked opinion.

First 2 i was right, last one is still in progress but looks like its turning out right.

I wish most of my history on this site wasnt wiped, so i could bring back up them threads to show ye just how long i been saying that stuff before any of it happened.

But back on topic.

I do not think Sony will bring their exclusive VR games to PC anytime soon if at all. I believe they will just release an official driver for the PSVR.

"X1 will become a Windows 10 box and Ms "

 

That has happened

 

[and all companys will release their own Stores for PC.]

 

Doubtful..reason being

They both Nintendo & Sony already have  a Store..

 

Sony and Nintendo are going after recruiting 3RD party Developers , and Studios and Publishers on IOS & Android..

 

No playstation Now released on PC

No virtual Console released on PC

Remote Play is being released on PC..So Sony is looking to stream from Playstation to-> PC , not make Playstation 1st party Exclusives for PC..because there is no proof that they are heading that way to do So..

On the other Hand , Microsoft is..

 

So you are implying Sony would allow 1st party Exclusives to port to a PC store where Microsoft or Valve also could use Marketing message ..you can play...Xbox,PC, and now Playstation Exclusives from single box?

 

And you do not think Sony instead would want that center box to be sold to a Consumer to be Playstation? Instead of helping keep consumers only sticking with a PC? PC is still a box you need to play that Software , So why not promote a playstation box ove helping others not purchase a playstation? Playstation is not an Open platform if PC is all about being an Open platform to Multi platform software companies.

Sony's playstation 1st party for living room console games is not Multi platform.. And 

 

Why start now? That's what 3Rd party and indies are for. 1st party is for playstation consoles for the living room.

 

Who is to say, that Playstation 1st party Exclusives would sell good on PC anyway..the way many post on gamer forums ,via Sony's games are not that great or not really game's. "Playstation has no exclusive games anyway"

 

If you have not noticed , the living Room Playstation 4 Sony 1st party games are not Multiplatform..

 

So why would Sony or Nintendo start now, when they now will have Android & iOS to Also support. I think Mobile is more important to both Sony  and Nintendo than PC Market support. 

 

I mean Sony codesplaystation4 games on a customized version of BSD..so not using DirectX or Windows OS..so again that would be spreading out their resources even more.

 

 

Playstation 4

Playstation Now

Playstation Vue

Playstation Smartphone

Playstation network.

 

I mean if its going to happen would they not jup on such sooner rather than later if there is larger profit in it for Sony..I mean they are with smartphone's and tablets and smart TV's new Playstation studio for smartphone Apr 1st..but no PC support. Other than streaming from playstation ->to PC.



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Very simple Question to Ask your self.for the living room in the future..

Do you see a PC replacing the game console in the living room or under any TV in the majority of consumers  as their main computer entertainment box instead of a game console?

For the Livingroom or in the bedroom or study..instead of a game Console the majority of Consumers would choose a PC instead of a game console in the future?

 

Or

Would the smart TV be the main box to play computer entertainment from the cloud streamed to your TV from the cloud ?

Instead of a game console or PC for that matter?

A) Sony & Nintendo do not make PC's
B) the #1 OS for the smartTV is AndroidOS
Therefore Since consoles are about the Livingroom space, not the PC space..why would Sony or Nintendo worry about what goes on in the PC market. Console gaming is about the living room or bed room or under any TV...the PC market, now  is it separate from the console market?


There is only one company out of the three that is being aggressive in persuit  & wishing to unify the PC market with the Game Console market..and its Not Nintendo or Sony.



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ps:

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joeorc said:
Very simple Question to Ask your self.for the living room in the future..

Do you see a PC replacing the game console in the living room or under any TV in the bedroom or study..instead of a game Console in the future or

Would the smart TV be the main box to play computer entertainment from the cloud ?

A) Sony & Nintendo do not make PC's
B) the #1 OS for the smartTV is AndroidOS
Therefore Since consoles are about the Livingroom space, not the PC space..why would Sony or Nintendo worry about what goes on in the PC market..the PC market is it seoerate from the console market?
There is only one company out of the three wishing to unify the PC market and the PC market..and its Not Nintendo or Sony.

I already have my PC connected to my TV.

I see the PC consoles replacing the normal consoles in the future, you get best of both worlds. PC's not belonging in the living room is kinda ironic, 20 years ago Microsoft was talking to bringing Windows to the living room?

I'm already shocked how game streaming hasn't rolled out yet, a lot of people have fast internet now (100Mb/s) and Gigabit ethernet is slowly rolling out. In 5-10 years everyone should have Gigabit connection or even higher.



MortienGerrux said:
joeorc said:
Very simple Question to Ask your self.for the living room in the future..

Do you see a PC replacing the game console in the living room or under any TV in the bedroom or study..instead of a game Console in the future or

Would the smart TV be the main box to play computer entertainment from the cloud ?

A) Sony & Nintendo do not make PC's
B) the #1 OS for the smartTV is AndroidOS
Therefore Since consoles are about the Livingroom space, not the PC space..why would Sony or Nintendo worry about what goes on in the PC market..the PC market is it seoerate from the console market?
There is only one company out of the three wishing to unify the PC market and the PC market..and its Not Nintendo or Sony.

[I already have my PC connected to my TV.]

 

The majority of Consumers do not, and most likely never will.

[I see the PC consoles replacing the normal consoles in the future, you get best of both worlds. PC's not belonging in the living room is kinda ironic, 20 years ago Microsoft was talking to bringing Windows to the living room?]

 

Umm , that's called the Media center PC, and no its not ironic, because many consumer do not want a PC hooked up to their TV..

History for the past 30 years shows that, if that was the case the Media Center PC would have replaced the game console a long time ago.

[I'm already shocked how game streaming hasn't rolled out yet, a lot of people have fast internet now (100Mb/s) and Gigabit ethernet is slowly rolling out. In 5-10 years everyone should have Gigabit connection or even higher].

 

There is places that still only have Dial up.. Or require satalite..or only 3G/4G off a smartphone as their internet access point.

Its not going to be Everywhere, not even close.

Again Xbox as a platform was the 2nd go at making the "Media Center PC" be the main box for your living Room, now when your talking streaming for the Living Room SmartTV and Mobile are the Main choice for streaming entertainment in the living room..not a media center PC.

 

I doubt very much the Media Center PC will or is ever going to replace the console before the streaming box's or SmartTV does it 1st.



I AM BOLO

100% lover "nothing else matter's" after that...

ps:

Proud psOne/2/3/p owner.  I survived Aplcalyps3 and all I got was this lousy Signature.

joeorc said:
MortienGerrux said:

[I already have my PC connected to my TV.]

 

The majority of Consumers do not, and most likely never will.

[I see the PC consoles replacing the normal consoles in the future, you get best of both worlds. PC's not belonging in the living room is kinda ironic, 20 years ago Microsoft was talking to bringing Windows to the living room?]

 

Umm , that's called the Media center PC, and no its not ironic, because many consumer do not want a PC hooked up to their TV..

History for the past 30 years shows that, if that was the case the Media Center PC would have replaced the game console a long time ago.

[I'm already shocked how game streaming hasn't rolled out yet, a lot of people have fast internet now (100Mb/s) and Gigabit ethernet is slowly rolling out. In 5-10 years everyone should have Gigabit connection or even higher].

 

There is places that still only have Dial up.. Or require satalite..or only 3G/4G off a smartphone as their internet access point.

Its not going to be Everywhere, not even close.

Again Xbox as a platform was the 2nd go at making the "Media Center PC" be the main box for your living Room, now when your talking streaming for the Living Room SmartTV and Mobile are the Main choice for streaming entertainment in the living room..not a media center PC.

 

I doubt very much the Media Center PC will or is ever going to replace the console before the streaming box's or SmartTV does it 1st.

Please explain why people wouldn't want a PC under their TV.

Also the places that only have dial-up and satellite have other problems on their head then gaming.

And the Xbox project was failed. Bill Gates wanted to bring the full Windows 95/98 exprience to the living room. But for whatever reason, the Original Xbox couldn't run it.



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MortienGerrux said:
joeorc said:

Again Xbox as a platform was the 2nd go at making the "Media Center PC" be the main box for your living Room, now when your talking streaming for the Living Room SmartTV and Mobile are the Main choice for streaming entertainment in the living room..not a media center PC.

 

I doubt very much the Media Center PC will or is ever going to replace the console before the streaming box's or SmartTV does it 1st.

Please explain why people wouldn't want a PC under their TV.

Also the places that only have dial-up and satellite have other problems on their head then gaming.

And the Xbox project was failed. Bill Gates wanted to bring the full Windows 95/98 exprience to the living room. But for whatever reason, the Original Xbox couldn't run it.

Have never understood this statement, either.  I highly doubt people don't want a PC under their TV, they just don't know how and have little desire to look into it.  The benefit would be quite high, though.



mornelithe said:
MortienGerrux said:

Please explain why people wouldn't want a PC under their TV.

Also the places that only have dial-up and satellite have other problems on their head then gaming.

And the Xbox project was failed. Bill Gates wanted to bring the full Windows 95/98 exprience to the living room. But for whatever reason, the Original Xbox couldn't run it.

Have never understood this statement, either.  I highly doubt people don't want a PC under their TV, they just don't know how and have little desire to look into it.  The benefit would be quite high, though.

I'm pretty sure most people don't want that bulky Alienware Alhpa that's 4x smaller then the Xbox One, more powerful the the PS4 for 330$ (on sale) and can function like a full normal PC for work, video-editing, photoshop etc.



Lafiel said:
ArnoldRimmer said:

Ha! I've predicted time and again that PSVR comes to PC sooner or later.

But this exceeds even my wildest dreams: I believed the way PSVR would come to PC would be by the internet community developing inofficial PC drivers for PSVR, just like they have already done for pretty much all Playstation peripherals. People constantly ridiculed this idea by claiming that SONY would do absolutely anything possible to prevent this from happening (being able to use PSVR on PC).

Quite ironic that SONY itself is now considering developing and releasing PC software for PSVR. Even I hadn't expected SONY to go this far...

I think unofficial support could be pretty hard to realize, because the software necessary to track the LED strips on the unit with a cam is not trivial to replicate and make fast/reliable enough to be useable for VR (processing the data has to fit into ~2ms afaik).

But tracking a few LEDS is hardly going to be the showstopper here. With libraries like OpenCV, this should actually be fairly simple. And even if OpenCV turns out to be unsuitable because it is too slow, tracking a few LEDs shouldn't be too much of a problem. While I have admittedly no experience, the basic strategy to track the LEDs actually seems rather simple to me: If a certain LED was located at coordinate 100,100 in the previous captured picture, and at coordinate 80,110 in the current captured picture, its coordinates in the next picture should be relative close to 60,120...

Anyways, even if they absolutely couldn't manage to track the LEDs in the short 2ms you mentioned, it would basically still work, even if it wasn't quite as fast as it should be.



mornelithe said:
MortienGerrux said:

Please explain why people wouldn't want a PC under their TV.

Also the places that only have dial-up and satellite have other problems on their head then gaming.

And the Xbox project was failed. Bill Gates wanted to bring the full Windows 95/98 exprience to the living room. But for whatever reason, the Original Xbox couldn't run it.

Have never understood this statement, either.  I highly doubt people don't want a PC under their TV, they just don't know how and have little desire to look into it.  The benefit would be quite high, though.

Its very simple exactly why..

 

http://www.financialpost.com/m/wp/blog.html?b=business.financialpost.com/fp-tech-desk/post-arcade/microsofts-xbox-head-don-mattrick-makes-ambitious-play-to-control-living-room

 

Take a look , and read..the Media center PC idea is a sound one for Microsoft , no argument there..but many consumers work with a "PC" at work Everyday, when they come home they want to mainly relax..the PC is a reminder of Work.

Another one is many replaced their desktops with a Laptop now or a Netbook..many see they already have a PC , why do I need another one?

It may seem to be funny that perception still is predominant even today, but it is.



I AM BOLO

100% lover "nothing else matter's" after that...

ps:

Proud psOne/2/3/p owner.  I survived Aplcalyps3 and all I got was this lousy Signature.

MortienGerrux said:
joeorc said:

Again Xbox as a platform was the 2nd go at making the "Media Center PC" be the main box for your living Room, now when your talking streaming for the Living Room SmartTV and Mobile are the Main choice for streaming entertainment in the living room..not a media center PC.

 

I doubt very much the Media Center PC will or is ever going to replace the console before the streaming box's or SmartTV does it 1st.

Please explain why people wouldn't want a PC under their TV.

Also the places that only have dial-up and satellite have other problems on their head then gaming.

And the Xbox project was failed. Bill Gates wanted to bring the full Windows 95/98 exprience to the living room. But for whatever reason, the Original Xbox couldn't run it.

Remember microsoft Bob? Before Microsoft even built the Xbox Bill and all, already envisioned a PC in every home At every desk..bill further envisioned not just every desk , but powering your work & play entertainment.

 

The problem is Microsoft did something good on one hand , but also bad on another by taking ownership of "PC to correlate with Windows OS" 

That also in the eyes of the Consumer seen as Work related Every day day in day out ..as Microsoft's share of the PC market became Dominate, many consumers may have wanted something different!



I AM BOLO

100% lover "nothing else matter's" after that...

ps:

Proud psOne/2/3/p owner.  I survived Aplcalyps3 and all I got was this lousy Signature.