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Platina on 27 March 2016
JRPGfan said:
Illusion said:

I think 480p still looks amazing. I am going to take a lot of flack for this but I think it was a mistake for the gaming industry to rush beyond the 480p resolution so quickly because all we got was marginally better looking games and exponentially longer development timelines. Episodic releases, Day 1 DLC, micro-transactions and all the things that are ruining games today can all find their source in the monstrous development budgets that games require to become satisfying at 900p/1080p. I miss the days when we would get a Metroid Prime or Baten Kaitos game every 2 years.

check this out:

^ This (above) is 1080p Xenoblade running on dolphin. It doesnt really require that fast a PC to run like this.

 

this is the 3DS version (picture below):

 

Theres no reason to spend more time or a higher budget, just because of resolution.

They could easily make a Xenoblade HD version that d be a peice of cake for the PS4 or Xbox One to run, and they wouldnt even need to change any assets from the org. game. They could just "upscale" it to a higher resolution, like dolphin does

Definitely will look better for the Dolphin version

I remember thinking that this game looks reallly bad on the 3DS, but forgot to take into account that the 3DS screen is small and it's not That bad..

Still not great, but not horrible



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curl-6 on 28 March 2016
JRPGfan said:
Illusion said:

I think 480p still looks amazing. I am going to take a lot of flack for this but I think it was a mistake for the gaming industry to rush beyond the 480p resolution so quickly because all we got was marginally better looking games and exponentially longer development timelines. Episodic releases, Day 1 DLC, micro-transactions and all the things that are ruining games today can all find their source in the monstrous development budgets that games require to become satisfying at 900p/1080p. I miss the days when we would get a Metroid Prime or Baten Kaitos game every 2 years.

check this out:

^ This (above) is 1080p Xenoblade running on dolphin. It doesnt really require that fast a PC to run like this.

 

this is the 3DS version (picture below):

 

Theres no reason to spend more time or a higher budget, just because of resolution.

They could easily make a Xenoblade HD version that d be a peice of cake for the PS4 or Xbox One to run, and they wouldnt even need to change any assets from the org. game. They could just "upscale" it to a higher resolution, like dolphin does

He was talking about 480p, not 240p, so I don't see how a screenshot of the 3DS version is applicable here.



JRPGfan on 28 March 2016
curl-6 said:
JRPGfan said:

check this out:

^ This (above) is 1080p Xenoblade running on dolphin. It doesnt really require that fast a PC to run like this.

 

this is the 3DS version (picture below):

*removed 3DS picture*

 

Theres no reason to spend more time or a higher budget, just because of resolution.

They could easily make a Xenoblade HD version that d be a peice of cake for the PS4 or Xbox One to run, and they wouldnt even need to change any assets from the org. game. They could just "upscale" it to a higher resolution, like dolphin does

He was talking about 480p, not 240p, so I don't see how a screenshot of the 3DS version is applicable here.

All right then... a wii picture.



curl-6 on 28 March 2016
JRPGfan said:
curl-6 said:

He was talking about 480p, not 240p, so I don't see how a screenshot of the 3DS version is applicable here.

All right then... a wii picture.

Better.

Honestly though, I'm fine with how Xenoblade looks on Wii, so Dolphin's just an unnecessary hassle for me.



JRPGfan on 28 March 2016

It just blew my mind how big a differnce, upscaleing the resoution on some Wii games makes.
Xenoblade when I first saw it 1080p with texture packs was like.... wow, wish it had always looked like this.



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curl-6 on 28 March 2016
JRPGfan said:
It just blew my mind how big a differnce, upscaleing the resoution on some Wii games makes.
Xenoblade when I first saw it 1080p with texture packs was like.... wow, wish it had always looked like this.

Don't get me wrong, naturally I'd like my games to look as nice as possible. And some of the mods I've seen for Xenoblade look gorgeous.

It's just that the Wii version gets the job done for me, so I don't feel the need to go to all the extra effort of playing via Dolphin.



Proxy-Pie on 28 March 2016

I like playing games on their original platform (which is why I went through the trouble of buying an EZ Flash IV), and I think Xenoblade looks fine on the Wii, though I have to admit I hated it when I got extreme frame dips when 5-8 enemies showed up on the screen :/
I'd play it on dolphin, but for some reason it's really laggy. I'm not sure if it's because I didn't set my settings right or whatever.



JRPGfan on 28 March 2016
MohammadBadir said:

I like playing games on their original platform (which is why I went through the trouble of buying an EZ Flash IV), and I think Xenoblade looks fine on the Wii, though I have to admit I hated it when I got extreme frame dips when 5-8 enemies showed up on the screen :/
I'd play it on dolphin, but for some reason it's really laggy. I'm not sure if it's because I didn't set my settings right or whatever.

It takes alot of CPU  power to emulate the cpu inside a wii, on x86.

Dolphin basically only makes use of 2 cores, so the faster those 2 cores are the better.

Intel is much better than amd for dolphin, and esp if you can overclock.

You basically want a Haswell or newer architecture.

Something like a G3258 (pentium haswell (dual core)) for 60$ can overclock to 4.2-4.6 ghz (luck of the draw with silicon).

Its the budget way to deal with dolphin.

 

If you cant do that, the next best thing is playing it on a Wii.



maverick40 on 28 March 2016

My eyes at the 3ds version. Jesus



Nem on 28 March 2016

The 3DS version is just as good as the Wii version. I got them both. I havent reached the final stages of the game on the 3DS though, where the Wii version would slow down to crawl to see how the 3DS performs.

The downside of the 3DS is that the game is clearly designed for a bigger screen. The menus have small fonts as a result or are a bit cluttered. Still, the 3DS is a decent way to experience the game.