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Do you think Sony and Microsoft kept their promises?

Yes, they kept their promises. 25 26.32%
 
Yes, they overdelivered. 6 6.32%
 
Yes, but they took too long. 23 24.21%
 
No, they underdelivered. 41 43.16%
 
Total:95
Ganoncrotch said:
Here's a question for the X1 users about here, I know that SFV is a PS4 exclusive, but did Ultra Street Fighter 4 come to the X1 store at the same time it was ported to the PS4? or is that part of the exclusive stuff with SFV? wouldn't make much sense considering that SF4 is even out on the 3DS heh.

Just recently picked up a copy of USF4 from that Easter sale (€12) and was thinking... fuck sake so much a better more complete game than the €70 barebones edition of SFV on the store.

You're not thinking of the game in terms of competitive tournament play. 

Unfortunately, the release of SFV has essentially closed the book on tournament play for SVIV in terms of official sponsored events. 

This is also the reason why SFV in its current state is bare bones compared to a game that has had about 8 years of updates over numerous editions, not that any of that should matter to a casual or non tournament player



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The OP graphic charts look like they were made by the same source which is odd unless someone produced them as a fact checker aid.

Everyone has their own expectations when a new console comes out; if you're in the everything must be exactly as advertised or I smell a class action lawsuit boat, you're probably better off not buying a console until it has all the features and more importantly, the titles you claim to be buying it for.

I bought three consoles over the current generation completely blind (pre-order for day 1 based on prerelease info) and the PS4 is the only one I still use. I'd say I got my use out of it after two years, so any further value I get out of it until I replace it makes it among the best ways I could have spent $400 on entertainment.

Could it have been better? When is the answer to that question ever no?



elektranine said:
The Xbox side is missing where they promised to make games less expensive and where the Xbox one will increase in power by 700% due to the power of the cloud.

That's the first thing I have to think of when it comes to "have they kept their promises": The ridiculous "power of the cloud" meme, where Microsoft actually convinced some naive fans to believe that it doesn't matter that Xbox 1 ist just half as powerful as PS4, because some mysterious god called "da cloud" would soon show up, and by magic transform all their inferior Xbox hardware into vastly superior and more powerful machines.



Ganoncrotch said:
Mike_L said:

If PlayGo is the opportunity to start playing the start of a game before everything has been downloaded and installed, I think my PS4 is capable of that(?).

Iirc I've been able to do that with PvZ Garden Warfare, Driveclub, Infamous, World of Tanks, etc.

This absolutely works, recall while downloading Injustice Gods Among Us once the download was a couple of GB complete it allowed the game start up with the Story mode greyed out and let me play practice and versus with a small handful of characters at first but slowly as we played it the roster filled out more and more with each character until it was finally done with all the characters then after another few hours the Story mode and online modes became white instead of Grey while the download still completed.

Drive club worked the same, download was... 47gb I think, game was playable after around 5 were down with many optioned locked opening up but opening up far faster than could play to unlock them, but there was a limit on the usable cars while the game downloaded more models.

Some games don't seem to have it at all though, but I guess for smaller titles they figured it wasn't as important as the huge 50gb+ style games.

Yeah. In some areas PS4 still needs to improve but PlayGo is a really nice feature.



Ganoncrotch said:
Here's a question for the X1 users about here, I know that SFV is a PS4 exclusive, but did Ultra Street Fighter 4 come to the X1 store at the same time it was ported to the PS4? or is that part of the exclusive stuff with SFV? wouldn't make much sense considering that SF4 is even out on the 3DS heh.

Just recently picked up a copy of USF4 from that Easter sale (€12) and was thinking... fuck sake so much a better more complete game than the €70 barebones edition of SFV on the store.

USF4 is not on XB1. I know that because ethomaz made one of his "MEGATON" threads about it XD

Currently, USF4 is indeed better than SFV.



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ArnoldRimmer said:
elektranine said:
The Xbox side is missing where they promised to make games less expensive and where the Xbox one will increase in power by 700% due to the power of the cloud.

That's the first thing I have to think of when it comes to "have they kept their promises": The ridiculous "power of the cloud" meme, where Microsoft actually convinced some naive fans to believe that it doesn't matter that Xbox 1 ist just half as powerful as PS4, because some mysterious god called "da cloud" would soon show up, and by magic transform all their inferior Xbox hardware into vastly superior and more powerful machines.

Agree. XB1 is a great console and for that reason Microsoft should've just been upfront about its resolution and framerate. Just lay down all your cards in the first place instead of being secretive and making a big deal about it. In that way it would get far less attention as well.



Well I am really happy with my Playstation 4 and the Sony support. :)



greenmedic88 said:
1: The OP graphic charts look like they were made by the same source which is odd unless someone produced them as a fact checker aid.

2: Everyone has their own expectations when a new console comes out; if you're in the everything must be exactly as advertised or I smell a class action lawsuit boat, you're probably better off not buying a console until it has all the features and more importantly, the titles you claim to be buying it for.

I bought three consoles over the current generation completely blind (pre-order for day 1 based on prerelease info) and the PS4 is the only one I still use. I'd say I got my use out of it after two years, so any further value I get out of it until I replace it makes it among the best ways I could have spent $400 on entertainment.

Could it have been better? When is the answer to that question ever no?

1: They really do. I don't think they are though as I recall seeing the Xbox One chart in a thread by a vgc member who received it in a mail from MS. I can't remember who it was but I hope the member sees this and confirms/finds the thread.

2: I couldn't have said it better myself. Only buy a console when you're interested in its features/library or else it's your own fault for not waiting/skipping.



greenmedic88 said:
Ganoncrotch said:
Here's a question for the X1 users about here, I know that SFV is a PS4 exclusive, but did Ultra Street Fighter 4 come to the X1 store at the same time it was ported to the PS4? or is that part of the exclusive stuff with SFV? wouldn't make much sense considering that SF4 is even out on the 3DS heh.

Just recently picked up a copy of USF4 from that Easter sale (€12) and was thinking... fuck sake so much a better more complete game than the €70 barebones edition of SFV on the store.

You're not thinking of the game in terms of competitive tournament play. 

Unfortunately, the release of SFV has essentially closed the book on tournament play for SVIV in terms of official sponsored events. 

This is also the reason why SFV in its current state is bare bones compared to a game that has had about 8 years of updates over numerous editions, not that any of that should matter to a casual or non tournament player

@Bold - I'd be confident in EVO having Ultra Street Fighter 4 at it for many many many years to come though, considering the games popularity accross all the platforms it is available on and over all the versions released, SFV not charting in EU on the PSN top 10 sales on it's first week could mean that ends up being a far smaller community playing it in a couple of years, Capcom aren't going to be trying to push SF4 out of the public eye like was seen with Nintendo and Smash Melee considering that USF4 launched less than 2 years ago on PC and last gen consoles with the PS4 "definitive" edition coming just 10 months ago.

@underlined - Did you maybe get the line backwards? the features missing from SFV far more so effect the casual player, being that all SFV currently has is online versus and local versus that means that if someone is just trying to get into Street Fighter using this game they're going to get destroyed online and be quickly turned off the game, when it comes to SF as it launched in 2009 before any other editions/patches of the game the same beginner players had options such as a story (albeit made up of just intro/7 fights/rival match/Seth/Ending) challenge modes to beat, timed challenges, survival modes as well as the most basic opinions like VS cpu option for the versus mode, those sort of game modes allow a new player something to do to get used to the controls of the game without just being double perfected online by people who are just happy to bottom feed fight money and rank from those guys stumbling onto the online modes.

 

In terms of just the game being for tournament play only, and I'm guessing you are only referring to officially sponsered stuff here? There really is no money to be had in a game which is only created for the elite tournament goers, it's such a small player base to sell into cutting out millions of those who bought the various versions of SF4, I doubt many of the 1.2m who bought the 3DS version of SF4 for example use it for tournament play.



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I see Sony having delivered all their promises and MS having big gaps that most fans seems to not care



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